The cash game student's blog [Free microstakes tips inside!]

    • NightShadePMC
      NightShadePMC
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      Hello again, PokerStrategy! This is my second blog on this site, you can find my first one here:

      The FR Zoom crusher's blog

      My first one was an overconfident,lazy me's blog, a me who didn't dedicate enough time to studying the game continually, so he didn't reach his true potential for a long time. This second one will be the opposite, it will be the blog of a permanent student of the game.

      This blog has the purpose of keeping track of my poker and life objectives and maybe share some of my own experience and tips with players looking to improve their game at the stakes I will be playing. I will mainly focus on hands that I played badly so that I can remind myself what mistakes not to repeat and point them out to other aspiring grinders so they won't have to make them.

      Because one of my main goals towards improving my poker skill and mental game is to not be results-oriented, this blog will rarely or never contain graphs so that I don't put pressure on myself.

      Some info about me:

      I'm 23 years old, I live in Romania and I dropped out of college when I was 21 to pursue a full-time poker career after winning a little more than $2000 in a month from playing $7 18-man SNGs on PokerStars in a country where the minimum wage is around $220 and around $450 to $600 for someone with 7 years of college. I never have and never will regret my decision.

      I have been studying poker since I was 19 years old. My only source of income is still poker, only now I'm playing cash games and I'm planning on sticking with them because they generally have a higher winning potential and less variance than SNGs, but they are also harder to master, but nothing great comes without hard work.

      Objective types:

      Short-term objectives should take no longer than a month and I remind myself of them daily so that I do my best to accomplish them. They also have the role to divide mid-term and long-term objectives into smaller, more manageable chunks.

      Mid-term objectives should take several months to complete and I review them weekly to see if it's the optimal time to complete them.

      Long-term objectives are likely to take more than a year to complete and are pretty self-explanatory - they are my aspirations and dreams for the future.


      Short-term objectives:
      :diamond: Only look at my results once a week on Sunday evening to improve my focus on the game itself and not the winnings/losses.
      :diamond: Do some basic physical exercise in the morning.
      :diamond: Read "The mental game of poker" By Jared Tendler
      :diamond: Stop drinking Coca-Cola or Pepsi - they're killing my liver.
      :diamond: Play at least 100K hands every month.

      Mid-term objectives:
      :diamond: When in big pots with a monster hand, always think about the exact optimal bet sizing required to shove your hand on the turn or river, if betting is the most +EV play, until it becomes an unconscious habit.
      :diamond: Read "Elements of poker" by Tommy Angelo.
      :diamond: Start going to the gym again (it's a matter of free time, I should be able to do it once I move to NL50 because my hourly rate will increase).
      :diamond: Dedicate more time to activities my girlfriend likes (such as going out, watching movies, playing video games together etc.) once I'm making $3k+/month.
      :diamond: Get a professional chair and adjustable table to avoid back problems.

      Long-term objectives:
      :diamond: Keep analyzing my game every 100K hands to search for leaks and potential improvements until I'm crushing €NL100 6-max speed.
      :diamond: Get to €NL100 6-max speed. [Currently - NL50 full ring Zoom]
      :diamond: Start making at least $10K/month constantly.
      :diamond: Gain 5 more KGs of muscle.


      Completed objectives:
      :spade: Decreased my Cbet flop % to 60% (was at 80%+, worked very well at NL25, but I wanted to get some balance into my game for when I get to NL50-NL200 so I don't get exploited)
      :spade: Got an awesome gaming computer from my poker winnings (although I don't play games too much these days, but the performance and desktop space don't hurt).
      :spade: Read "Building a bankroll - full ring edition" by Pawel Nazarewicz.
      :spade: Tightened my pre-flop ranges to eliminate the hands that are losing money from certain positions at NL25 FR.
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    • NightShadePMC
      NightShadePMC
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      This second post contains summaries of some my advice for beating NL10-NL25 full ring Zoom (I can't know if they're any good at higher stakes). I might post a more detailed explanation for some of these points throughout the blog and you will find hands related to these tips - their commentary is colored in red for bad plays that I made and in blue for good plays.

      :diamond: [autoprofit exploit] You should steal with 100% of your trash range by raising to 2.5 big blinds when you are on the button and behind you are two players that fit into one of the following categories: TAG, nit, tight passive, fit-or-fold fish (high VPIP, low PFR and 3bet, 60%+ fold to flop Cbet) It will show a good profit in the long run if you don't overplay your hand post-flop and fold to the occasional 3bets that you will encounter. Against all other opponents, keep a stealing range of 25% - 40% depending on how much they defend their blinds - the more they defend, the tighter your range should be.

      The same principles apply if you are in the small blind and minraise, even against a wider range of players - it's autoprofit against almost every opponent, if he folds at least 51% of the time. You should always have the "BB vs SB raise - fold" and "fold to late position steal" stats in your HUD.

      This also artificially inflates your VPIP and PFR stats, which will make you look more like a LAG, and will result in you getting paid off more often when you have a made hand.

      :diamond: [folding KK pre-flop] If you are facing a 4bet+ from a player in the first 3 positions or a 4bet+ against an early position open-raise and a 3bet and you have KK, a very large percentage of the time you will be facing AA and you should simply fold pre-flop to minimize losses, unless you are facing a maniac.

      :diamond: [Folding AK pre-flop] If you are facing a 3bet after raising in the first 3 positions from a regular or a relatively unknown player who doesn't appear to be maniacal, just fold. You are likely to be facing QQ+,AK in some of the best-case scenarios. Some people just call QQ and AK to UTG raises. Against that generous 3bet range, if you call, you have around 40% equity and you will be playing out of position and without being the lead aggressor, and it will surely be a losing play in the long run. --- Spot brought to my attention by gadget51.

      :diamond: [Cbetting the flop and betting in general] While trying to decrease my Cbet percentage, I often asked myself "Why shouldn't I bet here?". This was a mistake. The first question should be "Why should I bet here?" if you find no good reason, then you shouldn't Cbet.

      The best reasons to bet with a good made hand are value and protection. The only reasons to bet with a weak hand are having a high fold equity and to inflate the pot with a strong draw, if you also have some fold equity.

      Good reasons not to bet a strong hand are, for example, to let a very aggressive opponent bet it for you (rarely happens at these stakes,but keep your eyes open for them) or because your hand crushes the flop (such as having AK on an AAK flop) and the opponent has almost nothing to call you with and you can only extract value by letting him improve his hand or bluff you.

      PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: 118.32 BB (VPIP: 2.04, PFR: 2.04, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 51)
      SB: 85.2 BB (VPIP: 8.51, PFR: 2.13, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 47)
      BB: 112.24 BB (VPIP: 13.62, PFR: 10.60, 3Bet Preflop: 3.20, Hands: 1,511)
      UTG: 53.04 BB (VPIP: 15.13, PFR: 13.82, 3Bet Preflop: 1.67, Hands: 153)
      UTG+1: 65.48 BB (VPIP: 21.93, PFR: 8.77, 3Bet Preflop: 4.44, Hands: 115)
      MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 11.05, PFR: 5.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.47, Hands: 512)
      MP+1: 100 BB (VPIP: 12.94, PFR: 9.20, 3Bet Preflop: 2.59, Hands: 1,056)
      MP+2: 103.28 BB (VPIP: 36.59, PFR: 26.83, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 41)
      Hero (CO): 109.6 BB

      SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A:diamond: J:club:

      fold, fold, fold, fold, MP+2 raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 10.4 BB, fold, fold, fold, MP+2 calls 7.4 BB

      Flop: (22.2 BB, 2 players) 5:heart: J:diamond: J:spade:
      MP+2 checks, Hero checks

      Turn: (22.2 BB, 2 players) T:heart:
      MP+2 bets 10.6 BB, Hero raises to 30.4 BB, MP+2 raises to 92.88 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 62.48 BB

      River: (207.96 BB, 2 players) 9:heart:

      MP+2 shows 9:club: T:club: (Two Pair, Jacks and Tens) (Pre 40%, Flop 5%, Turn 0%)
      Hero shows A:diamond: J:club: (Three of a Kind, Jacks) (Pre 60%, Flop 95%, Turn 100%)
      Hero wins 199.96 BB

      If I had Cbet the flop, I would have missed 93 big blinds of value in this hand.


      :diamond: [Multi-way flopped sets] When multi-way with a set, especially out of position, it's usually best to just take the lead and bet enough so that you can shove by the river. Don't expect people to value bet your hand for you and don't be afraid about scaring them away, they either have a hand they want to call you down with (or shove) or they don't. They'll be more scared by a check-raise anyway, and check-calling out of position will be very unefficient value-wise because they are likely to bet smaller than you would bet, or they could simply check and you just lost a street of value.

      However, if you flop a set with AA on a dry flop, for example, you might just want to check the flop, since you aren't extracting value from almost anything.


      PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: 225.52 BB (VPIP: 15.47, PFR: 11.16, 3Bet Preflop: 3.35, Hands: 2,697)
      SB: 161.32 BB (VPIP: 16.44, PFR: 14.80, 3Bet Preflop: 10.28, Hands: 671)
      BB: 192.32 BB (VPIP: 13.46, PFR: 6.47, 3Bet Preflop: 2.04, Hands: 577)
      UTG: 233.4 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 37.50, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 17)
      Hero (UTG+1): 106.96 BB
      MP: 108.48 BB (VPIP: 21.43, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
      MP+1: 221.16 BB (VPIP: 13.82, PFR: 8.93, 3Bet Preflop: 5.39, Hands: 1,835)
      MP+2: 94.28 BB (VPIP: 12.56, PFR: 9.86, 3Bet Preflop: 8.50, Hands: 856)
      CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 11.09, PFR: 8.13, 3Bet Preflop: 2.04, Hands: 1,062)

      SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 4:diamond: 4:spade:

      fold, Hero raises to 2.48 BB, MP raises to 5 BB, fold, fold, fold, BTN calls 5 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 2.52 BB

      Flop: (16.4 BB, 3 players) K:club: 3:diamond: 4:heart:
      Hero bets 11.6 BB, MP calls 11.6 BB, fold

      Turn: (39.6 BB, 2 players) 8:spade:
      Hero bets 26.4 BB, MP calls 26.4 BB

      River: (92.4 BB, 2 players) 8:diamond:
      Hero bets 63.6 BB, MP calls 63.6 BB

      Hero shows 4:diamond: 4:spade: (Full House, Fours full of Eights) (Pre 52%, Flop 97%, Turn 100%)
      MP mucks A:spade: K:spade: (Two Pair, Kings and Eights) (Pre 48%, Flop 3%, Turn 0%)
      Hero wins 211.6 BB


      :diamond: [3betting value hands pre-flop] If you're going to 3bet your hand for value pre-flop, do it at least pot-sized, especially if you play tight and your hand is pretty much face-up vs an UTG open. Don't get "tricky" and don't give your opponent super-odds for set mining. If that's how you play big pairs, you are bleeding money.

      PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: 95.6 BB (VPIP: 17.42, PFR: 11.80, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 178)
      SB: 130.12 BB (VPIP: 16.10, PFR: 11.87, 3Bet Preflop: 2.53, Hands: 381)
      BB: 280.96 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
      UTG: 70.52 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
      UTG+1: 83.28 BB
      Hero (MP): 118.16 BB
      MP+1: 300.8 BB (VPIP: 14.98, PFR: 11.42, 3Bet Preflop: 4.55, Hands: 3,514)
      MP+2: 100 BB (VPIP: 10.95, PFR: 8.04, 3Bet Preflop: 3.60, Hands: 1,182)
      CO: 67.76 BB (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)

      SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q:diamond: Q:club:

      fold, fold, Hero raises to 3.4 BB, fold, MP+2 raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 5.6 BB

      Flop: (19.4 BB, 2 players) 7:diamond: J:spade: Q:spade:
      Hero checks, MP+2 bets 9.24 BB, Hero raises to 24 BB, MP+2 calls 14.76 BB

      Turn: (67.4 BB, 2 players) 9:club:
      Hero bets 28.4 BB, MP+2 raises to 67 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 38.6 BB

      River: (201.4 BB, 2 players) 8:club:

      Hero shows Q:diamond: Q:club: (Three of a Kind, Queens) (Pre 19%, Flop 86%, Turn 95%)
      MP+2 mucks A:spade: A:heart: (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 81%, Flop 14%, Turn 5%)
      Hero wins 193.4 BB
    • NightShadePMC
      NightShadePMC
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      My current plan is to grind NL25 full ring for a few months until I save some money as a back-up plan and buy a few things for myself (as mentioned in the mid-term objectives list). It takes a little long because I also have to withdraw money for living expenses.

      After that, I might move to NL25 6-max or NL50 full ring and go up the stakes with a more aggressive bankroll management because I'll have a backup bankroll in case I disastrously fail my shots, which shouldn't happen.

      From N50 full ring there isn't much room for moving up the stakes, so I'll switch to 6max once I beat it.

      The reasons I'm still playing full ring are that it has less variance than 6-max and I'm also a lot more experienced at this game type.
    • ImpasX
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      Will be following ! :)
    • NightShadePMC
      NightShadePMC
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      You should especially keep your eyes on the second post for some good tips, ImpasX. :)
    • ImpasX
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      Will do :)
    • NightShadePMC
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      Since I'm my biggest critic starting today, here's my first major mistake:

      PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: 55.44 BB (VPIP: 23.50, PFR: 10.50, 3Bet Preflop: 1.27, Hands: 202)
      SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 14.11, PFR: 12.03, 3Bet Preflop: 8.05, Hands: 243)
      BB: 72 BB (VPIP: 24.07, PFR: 7.41, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 54)
      UTG: 105.68 BB (VPIP: 14.56, PFR: 11.18, 3Bet Preflop: 3.66, Hands: 686)
      UTG+1: 102.32 BB (VPIP: 16.89, PFR: 12.00, 3Bet Preflop: 3.80, Hands: 453)
      Hero (MP): 102.4 BB
      MP+1: 101.4 BB (VPIP: 13.18, PFR: 10.63, 3Bet Preflop: 3.08, Hands: 1,225)
      MP+2: 141.52 BB (VPIP: 21.88, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 32)
      CO: 150.4 BB (VPIP: 12.01, PFR: 9.29, 3Bet Preflop: 1.03, Hands: 1,035)

      SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has T:club: T:spade:

      UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero calls 3 BB, fold, MP+2 calls 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 2 BB

      Flop: (12.4 BB, 4 players) T:diamond: 9:club: A:heart:
      BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets 9.44 BB, fold, BB calls 9.44 BB, fold

      Turn: (31.28 BB, 2 players) A:diamond:
      BB checks, Hero bets 23.88 BB, fold

      Hero wins 29.88 BB


      There was no reason in the world for me to bet the turn with the near nuts, and certainly not that big, because he only had 60BB left and I could get almost any ace all-in on the river anyway, but through this bet I'm folding all the pocket pairs and draws that he might have and could bluff the river with if I check back, so this bet just kills my value extraction from weaker hands.
    • ImpasX
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      Well he can have Ax for sure, checking the turn is seems results oriented, he can have so many gutshots, OESD's, that can call our turn bet.It's fish, so we need to build the pot, to shove the river, if we get called. 1/2 pot is enough i think.
    • NightShadePMC
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      I know I have room for improvement in my game, but when I see how some people play, it gives me hope :)
      Behold villain's ultimate river bluff! :facepalm:

      PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      Hero (BTN): 103.2 BB
      SB: 145.36 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 3.70, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 27)
      BB: 126.68 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 40.00, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 5)
      UTG: 101.6 BB (VPIP: 12.60, PFR: 10.84, 3Bet Preflop: 8.16, Hands: 2,530)
      UTG+1: 96.6 BB (VPIP: 12.24, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 49)
      MP: 106.6 BB (VPIP: 18.05, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 401)
      MP+1: 100 BB (VPIP: 13.73, PFR: 10.88, 3Bet Preflop: 3.39, Hands: 1,424)
      MP+2: 179.44 BB (VPIP: 13.18, PFR: 5.39, 3Bet Preflop: 5.90, Hands: 1,089)
      CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 12.56, PFR: 10.62, 3Bet Preflop: 4.32, Hands: 1,097)

      SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K:diamond: K:club:

      fold, UTG+1 raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 10.4 BB, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls 7.4 BB

      Flop: (22.2 BB, 2 players) T:club: 3:club: 8:diamond:
      UTG+1 checks, Hero bets 16.4 BB, UTG+1 calls 16.4 BB

      Turn: (55 BB, 2 players) 4:diamond:
      UTG+1 bets 8 BB, Hero raises to 41.2 BB, UTG+1 calls 33.2 BB

      River: (137.4 BB, 2 players) 7:spade:
      UTG+1 bets 5 BB, Hero raises to 35.2 BB and is all-in, fold

      Hero wins 140.76 BB


      However, I can't help but see my own failure to extract value in this hand. He had 23.6 blinds left in his stack that I failed to win. The correct play would have been to bet the flop pot-sized and shove the turn.
    • NightShadePMC
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      You are correct about extracting value from draws, ImpasX, butI still think there is a bit more value in checking back and allowing missed draws to try and represent an ace or see a free card in case villain was going to fold a weak draw like a gutshot here, and also give one-pair type hands like KT/QT/Q9/88/JJ/etc. the same "opportunity" to bluff. Also, this villain was especially aggressive post-flop on his small sample size.
    • ImpasX
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      well yeah, that changes if he's agressive, if fish is passive, he will check down, all missed draws :) .
    • NightShadePMC
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      My first bad beat since I started the blog:

      PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: 117.4 BB (VPIP: 13.94, PFR: 10.99, 3Bet Preflop: 1.88, Hands: 1,983)
      SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 13.84, PFR: 9.57, 3Bet Preflop: 1.37, Hands: 786)
      BB: 135.88 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: _, Hands: 3)
      Hero (UTG): 103.16 BB
      UTG+1: 100 BB (VPIP: 12.20, PFR: 10.04, 3Bet Preflop: 5.29, Hands: 464)
      MP: 104.56 BB (VPIP: 14.00, PFR: 7.00, 3Bet Preflop: 2.56, Hands: 462)
      MP+1: 53.64 BB (VPIP: 22.00, PFR: 8.00, 3Bet Preflop: 4.00, Hands: 50)
      MP+2: 108.68 BB (VPIP: 10.39, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 1.69, Hands: 158)
      CO: 242.2 BB (VPIP: 14.55, PFR: 5.45, 3Bet Preflop: 8.70, Hands: 55)

      SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 4:spade: 4:club:

      Hero raises to 2.48 BB, fold, fold, fold, MP+2 calls 2.48 BB, CO calls 2.48 BB, fold, SB calls 2.08 BB, BB raises to 12 BB, Hero calls 9.52 BB, fold, CO calls 9.52 BB, fold

      Flop: (40.96 BB, 3 players) 6:spade: 3:club: 5:heart:
      BB checks, Hero checks, CO bets 23 BB, fold, Hero raises to 91.16 BB and is all-in, CO calls 68.16 BB

      Turn: (223.28 BB, 2 players) K:heart:

      River: (223.28 BB, 2 players) 4:diamond:

      Hero shows 4:spade: 4:club: (Three of a Kind, Fours) (Pre 52%, Flop 77%, Turn 89%)
      CO shows A:spade: 7:spade: (Straight, Seven High) (Pre 48%, Flop 23%, Turn 11%)
      CO wins 215.28 BB


      However, I think I played this hand well. The chances of getting 4bet pre-flop were extremely small with a nit and a tag with 1.5% 3bet pre-flop each and a fish flatting pre-flop and the fish had fold to 3bet 0% (0/4) and went to showdown of 86% (6/7), so he was basically dead money post-flop if I was going to flop a set and clash with someone. Also, the flop pot would be huge so it would be very easy to get the squeezer to go broke with an overpair or good top pair.

      Post-flop it just plays by itself. Just calling to complete my draw out of position on the turn would be a terrible play, so I just use whatever fold equity I have (I don't expect it to be too high,but it still adds some EV) and a strong draw with a pair to shove. The pair is important because it adds 2 potential outs to my hand, especially when I'm up againts an overpair or 2 pairs. I didn't expect it to be good unimproved and I was shocked to see the villain's trash hand calling.
    • NightShadePMC
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      Just some plain funny incompetence :D

      PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      Hero (BTN): 106.72 BB
      SB: 98.76 BB (VPIP: 13.10, PFR: 10.15, 3Bet Preflop: 4.61, Hands: 1,947)
      BB: 100 BB
      UTG: 309.28 BB (VPIP: 15.49, PFR: 12.68, 3Bet Preflop: 6.90, Hands: 71)
      UTG+1: 91.84 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
      MP: 93 BB (VPIP: 20.51, PFR: 8.55, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 238)
      MP+1: 50 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 15)
      MP+2: 59.04 BB
      CO: 431.48 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 100.00, 3Bet Preflop: _, Hands: 2)

      SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K:heart: A:spade:

      fold, fold, fold, fold, MP+2 raises to 3.4 BB, fold, Hero calls 3.4 BB, fold, BB raises to 13.2 BB, MP+2 calls 9.8 BB, Hero raises to 106.72 BB and is all-in, fold, MP+2 calls 45.84 BB and is all-in

      Flop: (131.68 BB, 2 players) A:diamond: 8:spade: 8:diamond:

      Turn: (131.68 BB, 2 players) 2:diamond:

      River: (131.68 BB, 2 players) 6:diamond:

      MP+2 shows T:club: K:diamond: (Flush, Ace High) (Pre 26%, Flop 6%, Turn 20%)
      Hero mucks K:heart: A:spade: (Two Pair, Aces and Eights) (Pre 74%, Flop 94%, Turn 80%)
      MP+2 wins 125.76 BB
    • ImpasX
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      but we're happy that that type of players even exist :s_biggrin:
    • ImpasX
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      Originally posted by NightShadePMC
      My first bad beat since I started the blog:

      PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: 117.4 BB (VPIP: 13.94, PFR: 10.99, 3Bet Preflop: 1.88, Hands: 1,983)
      SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 13.84, PFR: 9.57, 3Bet Preflop: 1.37, Hands: 786)
      BB: 135.88 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: _, Hands: 3)
      Hero (UTG): 103.16 BB
      UTG+1: 100 BB (VPIP: 12.20, PFR: 10.04, 3Bet Preflop: 5.29, Hands: 464)
      MP: 104.56 BB (VPIP: 14.00, PFR: 7.00, 3Bet Preflop: 2.56, Hands: 462)
      MP+1: 53.64 BB (VPIP: 22.00, PFR: 8.00, 3Bet Preflop: 4.00, Hands: 50)
      MP+2: 108.68 BB (VPIP: 10.39, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 1.69, Hands: 158)
      CO: 242.2 BB (VPIP: 14.55, PFR: 5.45, 3Bet Preflop: 8.70, Hands: 55)

      SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 4:spade: 4:club:

      Hero raises to 2.48 BB, fold, fold, fold, MP+2 calls 2.48 BB, CO calls 2.48 BB, fold, SB calls 2.08 BB, BB raises to 12 BB, Hero calls 9.52 BB, fold, CO calls 9.52 BB, fold

      Flop: (40.96 BB, 3 players) 6:spade: 3:club: 5:heart:
      BB checks, Hero checks, CO bets 23 BB, fold, Hero raises to 91.16 BB and is all-in, CO calls 68.16 BB

      Turn: (223.28 BB, 2 players) K:heart:

      River: (223.28 BB, 2 players) 4:diamond:

      Hero shows 4:spade: 4:club: (Three of a Kind, Fours) (Pre 52%, Flop 77%, Turn 89%)
      CO shows A:spade: 7:spade: (Straight, Seven High) (Pre 48%, Flop 23%, Turn 11%)
      CO wins 215.28 BB


      However, I think I played this hand well. The chances of getting 4bet pre-flop were extremely small with a nit and a tag with 1.5% 3bet pre-flop each and a fish flatting pre-flop and the fish had fold to 3bet 0% (0/4) and went to showdown of 86% (6/7), so he was basically dead money post-flop if I was going to flop a set and clash with someone. Also, the flop pot would be huge so it would be very easy to get the squeezer to go broke with an overpair or good top pair.

      Post-flop it just plays by itself. Just calling to complete my draw out of position on the turn would be a terrible play, so I just use whatever fold equity I have (I don't expect it to be too high,but it still adds some EV) and a strong draw with a pair to shove. The pair is important because it adds 2 potential outs to my hand, especially when I'm up againts an overpair or 2 pairs. I didn't expect it to be good
      unimproved and I was shocked to see the villain's trash hand calling.


      Not looking at results, not sure if i like that play, he could have 77+, sets, its player dependant, but are we sure we have fold equity here ? he's like Tight-fish, by hits stats, they tend to be sticky with their overpairs.
    • NightShadePMC
      NightShadePMC
      Bronze
      Joined: 16.11.2010 Posts: 798
      You almost always have some amount of fold equity. Look at the KK hand for a shocking example. We can never assume our fold equity is absolute 0%. Plus the pot was 40 big blinds going to the flop, so our odds are too good to fold this hand.

      Remember that we started out looking for a set. On this flop, this is not necessarily a great spot for us to win money in the long run, but it's a good spot to at least cut some losses. To clarify: we have called 12BB pre-flop, so whenever we don't hit our set, we lose 12BB/hand. Because of the great pot odds on the flop here,we might reduce those losses per hand by a few big blinds. It's better to choose the option that loses less, if you have no option that wins(just like blind defense, nobody wins money from the big blind, but it's better to defend it and lose less with some hands than just fold and lose 100bb/100 hands)

      Also, if we just called the flop and we'd have hit a set or a straight on the turn, the board would contain 4 cards to a straight, so our chances of getting paid dramatically drop.

      However, I expected more callers behind me and not just the fish to make this call +EV. Calling or folding pre-flop is a thin decision and it's safer to just fold most of the time.
    • NightShadePMC
      NightShadePMC
      Bronze
      Joined: 16.11.2010 Posts: 798
      This is a good model for standard play on these kinds of flops, because:
      :spade: we don't want to get checked back and miss a street of value;
      :spade: his Cbet(if he fires) will likely be smaller than our lead out bet,so we get less value;
      :spade: a check-raise might produce a fold on the flop or later,especially if a 5, 6, T or J hits, which would put 4 cards to the straight on the board
      :spade: It's likely to be the best way to extract value out of TT-AA, AT, sometimes 66 and protect our hand at the same time.


      PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: 120.84 BB (VPIP: 9.93, PFR: 6.74, 3Bet Preflop: 2.50, Hands: 1,169)
      Hero (SB): 100 BB
      BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 41.67, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 12)
      UTG: 116.8 BB (VPIP: 19.52, PFR: 14.17, 3Bet Preflop: 4.11, Hands: 1,023)
      UTG+1: 124.6 BB (VPIP: 5.56, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
      MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 13.68, PFR: 10.83, 3Bet Preflop: 3.30, Hands: 1,459)
      MP+1: 222.64 BB (VPIP: 15.29, PFR: 9.51, 3Bet Preflop: 3.24, Hands: 896)
      MP+2: 100.92 BB (VPIP: 12.48, PFR: 7.86, 3Bet Preflop: 3.75, Hands: 589)
      CO: 117.28 BB (VPIP: 15.32, PFR: 10.92, 3Bet Preflop: 3.42, Hands: 2,416)

      Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 7:diamond: 7:club:

      UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 2.6 BB, fold

      Flop: (7 BB, 2 players) 7:heart: 9:club: 8:spade:
      Hero bets 5.32 BB, UTG calls 5.32 BB

      Turn: (17.64 BB, 2 players) 8:heart:
      Hero bets 14 BB, UTG calls 14 BB

      River: (45.64 BB, 2 players) 2:club:
      Hero bets 34 BB, UTG calls 34 BB

      Hero shows 7:diamond: 7:club: (Full House, Sevens full of Eights) (Pre 19%, Flop 88%, Turn 91%)
      UTG mucks Q:club: Q:heart: (Two Pair, Queens and Eights) (Pre 81%, Flop 12%, Turn 9%)
      Hero wins 108.52 BB
    • ImpasX
      ImpasX
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      Joined: 16.07.2013 Posts: 81
      yeah thanks for the good idea! WP sir. I'm struggling with flopped sets on drawy boards. :)
    • NightShadePMC
      NightShadePMC
      Bronze
      Joined: 16.11.2010 Posts: 798
      That insane turn bluff! :pokerface: :coolface:

      I was just trying to blockbet my way to the river card, but I guess my fierce bet sizing scared him away :s_confused: (actually, he had the check/fold option active).

      PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: 258.24 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 3)
      SB: 97.2 BB (VPIP: 13.03, PFR: 8.14, 3Bet Preflop: 8.63, Hands: 311)
      BB: 105.24 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 6.93, 3Bet Preflop: 3.92, Hands: 234)
      UTG: 105.08 BB (VPIP: 15.23, PFR: 10.81, 3Bet Preflop: 4.17, Hands: 936)
      UTG+1: 69.76 BB (VPIP: 47.06, PFR: 17.65, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
      MP: 91.8 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
      MP+1: 72.04 BB (VPIP: 23.39, PFR: 9.63, 3Bet Preflop: 1.15, Hands: 220)
      Hero (MP+2): 100 BB
      CO: 48.96 BB (VPIP: 25.71, PFR: 20.59, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 35)

      SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A:spade: T:spade:

      fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, fold

      Flop: (7.4 BB, 2 players) 7:diamond: K:spade: 9:club:
      Hero bets 3.52 BB, BTN raises to 7.04 BB, Hero calls 3.52 BB

      Turn: (21.48 BB, 2 players) 8:spade:
      Hero bets 3.04 BB, fold

      Hero wins 20.52 BB
    • NightShadePMC
      NightShadePMC
      Bronze
      Joined: 16.11.2010 Posts: 798
      Gotta hate it when this happens... :s_frown:

      PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: 194.44 BB (VPIP: 17.11, PFR: 11.80, 3Bet Preflop: 3.42, Hands: 344)
      Hero (SB): 115.8 BB
      BB: 119.52 BB (VPIP: 13.84, PFR: 10.71, 3Bet Preflop: 3.30, Hands: 232)
      UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 14.41, PFR: 12.39, 3Bet Preflop: 6.00, Hands: 349)
      UTG+1: 141.4 BB (VPIP: 14.69, PFR: 9.81, 3Bet Preflop: 3.28, Hands: 1,635)
      MP: 97.6 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
      MP+1: 509 BB (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
      MP+2: 100 BB (VPIP: 13.59, PFR: 10.67, 3Bet Preflop: 3.23, Hands: 1,493)
      CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 11.98, PFR: 9.90, 3Bet Preflop: 3.92, Hands: 534)

      Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K:spade: A:club:

      UTG raises to 2.48 BB, fold, fold, MP+1 calls 2.48 BB, MP+2 calls 2.48 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 13.4 BB, fold, fold, MP+1 calls 10.92 BB, fold

      Flop: (32.76 BB, 2 players) 3:diamond: A:heart: 8:club:
      Hero bets 25.6 BB, MP+1 raises to 51.2 BB, Hero raises to 102.4 BB and is all-in, MP+1 calls 51.2 BB

      Turn: (237.56 BB, 2 players) Q:club:

      River: (237.56 BB, 2 players) 7:diamond:

      Hero shows K:spade: A:club: (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 74%, Flop 87%, Turn 7%)
      MP+1 shows Q:heart: A:spade: (Two Pair, Aces and Queens) (Pre 26%, Flop 13%, Turn 93%)
      MP+1 wins 229.56 BB