VIP system

    • FFRRAANNKKIIEE
      FFRRAANNKKIIEE
      Silver
      Joined: 30.12.2010 Posts: 3,107
      Today I contacted William Hill support on their chat to ask about their VIP system. I asked how much cash back I can get for raking about 10k euros monthly. They replied that that is 340k points and that I can get 325 euros if I exchange it for cash?!?! I asked few times to clarify that because it seems lol low, and the guy said that's it they don't offer other rakeback.

      Why do you say here that we can get up to 50% of rakeback? I'm a bit confused, can someone of stuff or players on william hill help me out on this? I still think the guy from support is clueless.

      Thanks,
      Fran
  • 5 replies
    • FFRRAANNKKIIEE
      FFRRAANNKKIIEE
      Silver
      Joined: 30.12.2010 Posts: 3,107
      btw My WH account is linked to PS
    • HypnoMarsu
      HypnoMarsu
      Bronze
      Joined: 08.09.2011 Posts: 29
      I think the support guy forgot to factor in the clubstatus multiplier.

      10k eur a month gives you a 6,8 multiplier.

      So if it was 340k cp / month * 6,8 = 2312k cp / month once you get to that lvl and maintain it.

      Your maximum instant cash bonus would be 25k eur (13900k cp) because you lose points older than 12 months. Which would take 13900k cp/ 2312cp/month ~ 6 months or 50k eur yearly

      As for exchanging points for pending bonuses. You should be able to buy the max bonus of 1000eur and complete it within the 30 days it remains active for 50% rakeback. Which means you get 1000 euros per 2000 euros raked. That is 60k eur for raking 120k eur in a year.

      On top of this you get rakeback from PS & WH promotions.

      Hope that makes sense.

      -Hypno
    • tonypmm
      tonypmm
      Silver
      Joined: 11.01.2009 Posts: 3,853
      The best way to spend Club Points is to buy €1K pending bonuses and, with the excess points, cash rewards.

      The €1K bonus costs 463K CPs, clears at the speed of €3.50 per 400 WH (status) Points, i.e. at the cashback rate of 29.75%.

      While clearing the bonus (€3361.35 in rake is needed for that, so you'll buy a new bonus twice or thrice a month), you'll earn 114.3K WHPs.

      Let's assume you have Club Status 8 (200K WHPs = €5882.36 in monthly rake are needed for that), which gives the multiplier of 6.8 CPs per WHP.

      Then you'll earn ~777K CPs while clearing the €1K bonus, out of which, only 463K will be spent on a new bonus. Hence you'll have 314K excess points to be exchanged for cash.

      The longer you conserve them, the better is the x-rate you get. If you buy cash in chunks of €1K (that cost 695K CPs, which you'll accumulate a bit more often than once a month), you'll spend 695 CPs per €1 of reward, so the 314K points will buy you €450 at this rate. Therefore the cashback rate from the VIP Club will be (€1000+€450)/€3361~43%.

      If you buy cash in chunks of €3K for 1.85M CPs (which you'll accumulate about every 2 months), at the rate of 617 CPs per €1, then the 314K will buy you €509, so the VIP cashback rate will be €1509/€3361~45%.

      Add here 1) 15-20% from the 3rd-6th place in the Double Top100 (Pokerstrategy is however yet to decide if it will double the regular prize in November), 2) up to 10% from Gemstones, 3) the Diamond status, 4) live packages (that can be sold) won in WH's central promotions, currently the Concord Cards Casino race (awarding a €1200 package to the top 5 rakers about once a month), and you have 85%+ return on rake, making it the best Pokerstrategy deal for high volume players :f_thumbsup:

    • FFRRAANNKKIIEE
      FFRRAANNKKIIEE
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      Joined: 30.12.2010 Posts: 3,107
      Thanks guys, you are awesome
    • Lazza61
      Lazza61
      Headadmin
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      Joined: 23.03.2011 Posts: 9,217
      Originally posted by FFRRAANNKKIIEE
      Thanks guys, you are awesome
      They are indeed . TY guys. :f_thumbsup: