[NL2-NL10] NL25 ss

    • Alexd10
      Alexd10
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      Joined: 07.07.2008 Posts: 609
      $0.1/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
      9 players
      Converted at weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG Hero ($5.00)
      UTG+1 33teetwo33 ($25.85)
      MP1 Tabakko ($36.95)
      MP2 1989robin ($52.00)
      MP3 komm1986 ($4.65)
      CO The Peeed ($24.65)
      BTN oz65 ($47.25)
      SB irondave007 ($15.85)
      BB tina-thomas ($6.00)

      Pre-flop: ($0.35, 9 players) Hero is UTG K:club: A:club:
      Hero raises to $1, 5 folds, oz65 calls $1, 2 folds

      Flop: 8:heart: 3:heart: 9:club: ($2.35, 2 players)
      Hero bets $1.50, oz65 raises to $10.50
  • 6 replies
    • imphat
      imphat
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      Joined: 10.11.2008 Posts: 5
      I think I would have played it just the same.. by the book

      You've raised preflop with AK and got 1 caller.. missed the flop and cbet. its hard to tell if ur opponent was made or not, but clearly u didn't have the odds to call that.

      You had only 6 outs for overpair, which was already kinda weak right now since you could be already facing triples or a flush draw.
    • burek2000
      burek2000
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      Joined: 16.11.2007 Posts: 3,105
      By the book I think it's ok to fold, but since we have 2 over cards and a backdoor flushdraw, I think we might call here...

      Pot odds for us here are 2,35 + 1,5 + 1,5 + 2,5 : 2,5 -> 3,14 : 1, but to make a profitable call with 6 outs we only need 3 : 1. With other words, we will improve our hand in 25,6%, but we have to make a call of just 24% of the pot.

      Also, equilator says against a range ATs/o+, 88+, KJo/s+ we have 59% equitiy on this board. Maybe, someone could add what a range would be accurate here, I think mine could be too tight for unknown button...

      And besides, we could be up against a draw where we are ahead.

      Anyway, this was my first equity/probability calculation, so I'd be glad for a revision by someone more experienced. :)
    • Gerv
      Gerv
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      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      Fold and save your bucks for the next opportunity you never know if your 6 outs are clean outs ;)
    • Fongie
      Fongie
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      Joined: 02.12.2006 Posts: 4,978
      Originally posted by burek2000
      Also, equilator says against a range ATs/o+, 88+, KJo/s+ we have 59% equitiy on this board. Maybe, someone could add what a range would be accurate here, I think mine could be too tight for unknown button...
      This range is completely off, because we're not talking about preflop range here but which range he will raise your contibet with. And he definately won't with AT+ KJ+, because he hasn't hit with these hands! Basically, just fold, because you're never ahead here and also as Gerv said your outs may not be clean, giving you even less chance of winning this pot.

      Note: I'm not experienced but still think I'm right :P
    • burek2000
      burek2000
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      Joined: 16.11.2007 Posts: 3,105
      I know my calculation here wasn't exactly to say correct, but it was my first try... :)

      But, the reason why I recommended to bet/call is because I watched the xarry2's session review part IV, where the last hand reviewed is very similar to this one, so maybe someone could explain me, which play is better and maybe tell me if I missed some obvious difference between the hands... xarry had a bit better odds in the review, but I think not enough to change the play just for this reason... ...or did he.
    • ysessa
      ysessa
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      Joined: 11.07.2008 Posts: 1,331
      i would fold to his raise.