This is bad i poker william hill

    • htghguuh
      htghguuh
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      YOU have too play well here if u miss fold ,
      ive come against the high stack leader now 3 times and know he cant outdraw me he goes all in
      AAAAAND connection is lost 3 times now ,im running other sites at same time no prob is it MMME or wot happining here ,it took me ages too work out there cards?????
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    • grbell
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      What other sites are you running? I'm getting frequent disconnections on Netbet(Ipoker) tonight. Apart from the crappy Ipoker software I like WH.
    • VorpalF2F
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      Originally posted by htghguuh
      im running other sites at same time no prob is it MMME or wot happining here ,it took me ages too work out there cards?????
      First off, you cannot run more than 1 iPoker site at the same time.

      Next, iPoker uses the Windows .Net framework. It may be that there is a conflict there. At one time you had to start iPoker and HM2 in a specific order for it to work well.

      Try this:
      Reboot.
      Run your iPoker skin -- just one.
      When you have logged in run your tracker.
      Play some poker.

      If things are still flakey let us know.

      I have not been on iPoker in a while, but it rarely has connectivity for me.

      Best of luck,
      VS
    • grbell
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      There were definitely some issues on Ipoker(Netbet) last night. Frequent disconnections and when I got reconnected others at the table were sitting out then returning as if they had disconnected too. I suppose some problems at one IPoker skin could affect the others since it is the same player pool.

      I agree with Vorpal that rebooting does sometimes help Ipoker run better.
    • hoagy
      hoagy
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      There were problems with iPoker last night, although not as bad today there is still some server lag. In some cases a general problem on the iPoker network can at times seem to affect one skin more so than another, for example if the network is overloaded a skin with more players may suffer more lag than a skin with less players. Also depending on routing one area or location may be affected more than another.

      Although you are not supposed to use more than one client at a time alas some people do, in that case it is possible that one will work better than another. A reboot will close the client and any open sessions this allows any outstanding updates to install automatically, it is also a good idea to update your windows. As a lot of people did report problems yesterday it is probably best not to blame your system or settings and wait a while to see what happens.
    • meandi289
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      Yuy I got problems with Ipoker last night also, I thought my internet got trouble but then found out that some other players sit out too when I was able to reconnect.
    • xkoko
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      Same problem for me..
    • avanbuiten
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      See related post: Be warned unreliable service - got refunded though

      What annoys me is they don't seem to be doing anything about it or think they have a responsibility to warn people beforehand.
      Clearly those not effected will be able to take advantage of those who are!
    • hoagy
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      Hi Avan. I think we are all affected equally by these problems, although at different times. Are there not times when you play at a table and gain advantage of others who are in sit-out mode? Does it not balance out fairly in that way?
    • avanbuiten
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      Hi, obviously I don't blame any other players for taking advantage of the situation. In my case it hasn't balanced out either in my favour, or equal overall. When I pay over money to a poker provider I expect to be able to play the game without severe (not mild/moderate) disruption, and refunded if that service cannot be provided. I also expect to be prevented from playing when the poker provider is aware of a serious problem, I don't expect them to continue to take my money in good faith.
    • hoagy
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      I also expect to be prevented from playing when the poker provider is aware of a serious problem
      In that I agree entirely, if they can't function properly (no matter what reason) it would be wise and fair to all to close until all issues are resolved. Saying that anytime I have e-mailed support complaining I have always been refunded my buy-in.
    • YohanN7
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      @Vorpal

      You sure they use .NET?

      I have removed almost all .NET except the very oldest from my computer (so that I can still run MS Developer Studio 2010.) iPoker runs (poorly, but it runs) Also, opening Casino.exe in good old Dependency Walker reveals an ordinary (but badly written) C/C++ application.
    • VorpalF2F
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      Well I'm not so sure any more :facepalm:

      I once had a problem where I could not get William Hill to open if HM2 was running already.
      I judged it as a .Net conflict, but I did not check any dependencies.

      Also the appearance of the app itself looked so .Net-ish but that might just be styling.

      So if you've run Dependency Walker, I'll take that as conclusive.

      I only have such goodies on my work computer

      All the best in 2015,
      VS
    • YohanN7
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      I have been fearing that some new version of Stars, Full Tilt, etc would turn out to rely on .NET But I think they are wise enough to avoid that at all costs. Why trow away smoothly working hand-crafted top notch applications and replace it with stinking canned software? (my POV of course, apologies to anyone thinking .NET is fantastic:) )
    • VorpalF2F
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      Originally posted by YohanN7
      ... stinking canned software? (my POV of course, apologies to anyone thinking .NET is fantastic:) )
      Well it *is* fantastic if you want to develop apps quickly and cheaply.
      It *is* fantastic if you don't really care if they run fast, if you don't really care if they have a small footprint, and don't really care much about stability. I mean, really. If you ship perfect software, how are you going to make money on support?

      I was at the .NET launch seminar in Vancouver when they brought it out.

      I stood up and made the comment that "All you've done is recreate VBRUN300 and all its horrors" or words to that effect.

      They were ready for this, thanked me for my "question" and went on at great length about all the callable functions, the cross-language development and all the goodies baked into the pie.

      Now instead of VBRUN300, 400, 500 and 600 we have not just the 4 dlls, we have acres of disk space occupied by versions, patches, assemblies and lord knows what else.

      And no matter what they tell you, two programs using the same .NET version can take each other out -- and more besides. It may be rare, but it does happen.

      Another thing that really annoyed me about .NET was that it somehow would get messed up, then suddenly various apps would behave in strange ways. There were no .NET troubleshooting tools, until a semi-independent developer wrote a bunch. I would love to have the time back I spent repairing buggered-up .NET frameworks. "Security" patches would be auto-deployed that would take out the entire framework for that version.

      Things seem to have settled down now though.

      Thanks for cueing the rant.

      Cheers,
      VS
    • grbell
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      Vorpal,

      Your rant is so spot on. Really enjoyed it. :f_thumbsup:

      What I don't understand is why Ipoker don't look at making their software more cutting edge and able to be used on more platforms. It is not as if they are a small player in the poker world. They surely would gain business by improving it and making it available on mobile devices. Do they not realise that many recreational players want to play on those?
    • YohanN7
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      Vorpal:f_thumbsup:
      .NET really never really matured the way Java did. I had similar objections to it when it was new, but it surely stabilized, given some time at least. And C++ (native, mind you!) is now older than many peoples grandfather, but still going strong.

      grbell:f_drink:
      Not only that. I'd stand playing on my desktop with the iPoker robots if their software was as flawless as Stars and Full Tilt's. Now I barely stand maintaining silver status here at PS.
    • htghguuh
      htghguuh
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      Originally posted by VorpalF2F
      Originally posted by htghguuh
      im running other sites at same time no prob is it MMME or wot happining here ,it took me ages too work out there cards?????
      First off, you cannot run more than 1 iPoker site at the same time.

      Next, iPoker uses the Windows .Net framework. It may be that there is a conflict there. At one time you had to start
      im off to buy a new laptop cause i destroyed my otter,lpl np i do run other site-same time but hat aside they have issues











      and HM2 in a specific order for it to work well.

      Try this:
      Reboot.
      Run your iPoker skin -- just one.
      When you have logged in run your tracker.
      Play some poker.

      If things are still flakey let us know.

      I have not been on iPoker in a while, but it rarely has connectivity for me.

      Best of luck,
      VS
    • htghguuh
      htghguuh
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      Al working for me now does side kick not work here?
      Wot kinda games are these anyway:f_drink: :f_cool: