[NL2-NL10] KJs NL10 FR

    • Solomaextra
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      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      SB:
      $10,00
      BB:
      $5,99
      MP1:
      $12,09
      MP2:
      $8,65
      MP3:
      $2,04
      BU:
      $1,85

      0,05/0,1 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.61 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is CO with K:diamond: , J:diamond:
      3 folds, MP2 calls $0,10, MP3 folds, Hero raises to $0,40, 3 folds, MP2 calls $0,30.

      Flop: ($0,95) T:diamond: , 5:heart: , J:spade: (2 players)
      MP2 bets $0,45, Hero calls $0,45.

      Turn: ($1,85) T:heart: (2 players)
      MP2 bets $1,76, Hero folds.

      Final Pot: $3,61
  • 10 replies
    • TheBrood
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      Raise flop with TPGK, it isnt entirely dry and you are the pf aggressor.
      As played, against unknown I prob call turn and fold to a big bet on river, but against W$SD=86 I would mostly respect his bet and fold.

      He would have raised QQ+ pf prob.
      Unlikely he has a J since we have one.
      FD/SD would prob bet less if at all after your call on flop. Would W$SD=86 semibluff here?
      This leaves him with a T or 55.
    • Solomaextra
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      Originally posted by TheBrood
      Raise flop with TPGK, it isnt entirely dry and you are the pf aggressor.
      As played, against unknown I prob call turn and fold to a big bet on river, but against W$SD=86 I would mostly respect his bet and fold.

      He would have raised QQ+ pf prob.
      Unlikely he has a J since we have one.
      FD/SD would prob bet less if at all after your call on flop. Would W$SD=86 semibluff here?
      This leaves him with a T or 55.
      I agree with you on some things but not on raising this flop, I am not gonna blow up the pot with med TP with a medium kicker, no way I'd never raise here against his flop agression(which is kinda low), I can't post detailed stats here cause I dunno how to export them from PT3.
    • TheBrood
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      Since he limp/called pf I'd put him on a small pp or suited/connectors.
      You cant let him draw cheap to his straight on this flop.
    • Solomaextra
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      Originally posted by TheBrood
      Since he limp/called pf I'd put him on a small pp or suited/connectors.
      You cant let him draw cheap to his straight on this flop.
      I don't mind letting him draw cheap if he has connectors(if I knew it for sure I'd raise of course), when you are going for pot control your opponents sometimes hit and win small pots, it happens, so do you, when they go for pot control.
    • TheBrood
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      Originally posted by Solomaextra
      Originally posted by TheBrood
      Since he limp/called pf I'd put him on a small pp or suited/connectors.
      You cant let him draw cheap to his straight on this flop.
      I don't mind letting him draw cheap if he has connectors(if I knew it for sure I'd raise of course), when you are going for pot control your opponents sometimes hit and win small pots, it happens, so do you, when they go for pot control.
      I dont see the need for pot control with your hand on this board and by calling flop you have no idea where you're at =S
    • Solomaextra
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      Originally posted by TheBrood
      Originally posted by Solomaextra
      Originally posted by TheBrood
      Since he limp/called pf I'd put him on a small pp or suited/connectors.
      You cant let him draw cheap to his straight on this flop.
      I don't mind letting him draw cheap if he has connectors(if I knew it for sure I'd raise of course), when you are going for pot control your opponents sometimes hit and win small pots, it happens, so do you, when they go for pot control.
      I dont see the need for pot control with your hand on this board and by calling flop you have no idea where you're at =S
      The hands I posted today are kind of complicated :-) I must disagree with on this however, though it might be just a matter of taste, since I don't like being too agressive and I like pot controlling, it's just my style of play, it might be worse EV(or bigger, I dunno), but I feel comfortable with my play at the moment since I am winning in the long run with pretty high winrate.
    • Kaitz20
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      I would raise flop. often he is drawing and he can´t really represent too many hands that beat KJ.
    • Solomaextra
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      Originally posted by Kaitz20
      I would raise flop. often he is drawing and he can´t really represent too many hands that beat KJ.
      Thanks but I disagree, by raising I loose value, he doesn't have draw very often here, mostly backdoors.
    • Kaitz20
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      Originally posted by Solomaextra
      Originally posted by Kaitz20
      I would raise flop. often he is drawing and he can´t really represent too many hands that beat KJ.
      Thanks but I disagree, by raising I loose value, he doesn't have draw very often here, mostly backdoors.
      But why would you fold then to turn bet :)
    • Solomaextra
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      Originally posted by Kaitz20
      Originally posted by Solomaextra
      Originally posted by Kaitz20
      I would raise flop. often he is drawing and he can´t really represent too many hands that beat KJ.
      Thanks but I disagree, by raising I loose value, he doesn't have draw very often here, mostly backdoors.
      But why would you fold then to turn bet :)
      Because I am behind his turn betting range on this board.