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January NL live coachings with oblioo

    • oblioo
      oblioo
      Coach
      Coach
      Joined: 02.10.2012 Posts: 338
      hi everyone,

      For the next three Thursdays, I will be doing live coachings on the following topics:

      1/15 - Preflop game plan in 2015
      -we will discuss how top players have changed some preflop strategies in the past year, as well as go over basic ranges
      -should be helpful both for beginners and players who are already winners

      1/22 - Flop strategy as PFR: when to cbet and when to check
      -we will discuss what to look for when considering cbetting, the difference between being IP and OOP, and more
      -please post HHs in this thread that show flop spots you were not sure about!

      1/29 - Facing flop aggression: reviewing hands when bet into or raised on the flop
      -this will be mostly a HH review where we will discuss various concepts in practice
      -post hands in this thread of hands where you faced a flop bet or raise, so we have hands to review!

      Please join me and post questions and HHs in this thread!
  • 36 replies
    • oblioo
      oblioo
      Coach
      Coach
      Joined: 02.10.2012 Posts: 338
      hey y'all, please start posting HHs for this Thursday, with an emphasis on flop spots after you raise pre-flop!
    • Vestelth
      Vestelth
      Global
      Joined: 01.09.2011 Posts: 1,889
      Hey Oblioo,

      I really liked and learned a lot from your latest coaching. Unfortunately I managed to see only half of it (arrived too late). Are there any plans to put a coaching recording in the video section? It would be so awesome...

      Anyway, my Flop spot:
      Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

      SB: $18.64 (74.6 bb)
      BB: $48.12 (192.5 bb)
      Hero (UTG): $34.89 (139.6 bb)
      MP: $40.94 (163.8 bb)
      CO: $25 (100 bb)
      BTN: $11.98 (47.9 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9 T
      Hero raises to $0.75, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.75, 2 folds

      Flop: ($1.85) K 2 9 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN checks

      Turn: ($1.85) 8 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN checks

      River: ($1.85) Q (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN checks

      Results:
      $1.85 pot ($0.08 rake)
      Final Board: K 2 9 8 Q
      Hero showed 9 T and won $1.77 ($1.02 net)
      BTN mucked 7 7 and lost (-$0.75 net)

      Often I have some trouble deciding if CBet with 2nd pair is good or not. It also includes multiway pots. Some tips would be nice :) .
    • SvenBe
      SvenBe
      Headadmin
      Headadmin
      Joined: 19.04.2006 Posts: 13,501
      Yes, we'll release the podcast in the near future. This Thursday it will be the one from 8th of January.

      CU,SvenBe
    • Trommelboy
      Trommelboy
      Silver
      Joined: 08.11.2009 Posts: 858
      No other choice but to post it like this (Unibet... :p )

    • AggroNitt
      AggroNitt
      Gold
      Joined: 05.04.2011 Posts: 1,180
      Hey Oblioo, I just got time this evening to join your coaching .
      As I saw that nearly nobody took the chance to post HH´s, I marked some Flops (22) in my Holdem Manager.
      Maybe you would like to click through this hands during the coaching.

      https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4ZZICWW4JYbWEZwQ1RtenZ2YjA/view?usp=sharing
    • oblioo
      oblioo
      Coach
      Coach
      Joined: 02.10.2012 Posts: 338
      AggroNitt,

      Thank you for sharing, but could you please choose a few hands to post on weaktight.com and post the links in this thread, or at least post them as PokerStrategy converted HHs? I don't think I or anyone else wants to read through a .txt file to discuss hands. Cheers
    • AggroNitt
      AggroNitt
      Gold
      Joined: 05.04.2011 Posts: 1,180
      I didnt expected anyone to read through the .txt fiels, i thought u could open them with holdem manager :f_biggrin:

      But ofcourse I will select a few..
    • oblioo
      oblioo
      Coach
      Coach
      Joined: 02.10.2012 Posts: 338
      Ah, sorry, I don't have holdem manager. So if you don't mind converting a few I would appreciate it :)
    • AggroNitt
      AggroNitt
      Gold
      Joined: 05.04.2011 Posts: 1,180
      Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 2646917
      DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

      BTN: $26.19 - VPIP: 13, PFR: 10, 3B: 3, AF: 2,5, Hands: 6104
      SB: $18.07 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 17, 3B: 0, AF: 0,0, Hands: 6
      BB: $25.35 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 12, 3B: 4, AF: 3,8, Hands: 31837
      UTG: $33.59 - VPIP: 29, PFR: 11, 3B: 0, AF: 0,3, Hands: 45
      UTG+1: $67.36 - VPIP: 11, PFR: 5, 3B: 1, AF: 1,9, Hands: 1868
      UTG+2: $25.00 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 16, 3B: 9, AF: 2,6, Hands: 146
      Hero (MP1): $58.46 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 17, 3B: 6, AF: 2,7, Hands: 20290
      MP2: $40.16 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 12, 3B: 1, AF: 1,2, Hands: 238
      CO: $25.35 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 12, 3B: 6, AF: 2,9, Hands: 9137

      Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is MP1 with K :heart: K :spade:
      3 folds, Hero raises to $0.70, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.70, 2 folds

      Flop: ($1.75) T :club: 3 :diamond: Q :club: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN checks

      Turn: ($1.75) 7 :diamond: (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.50, BTN raises to $4.50, Hero calls $3

      River: ($10.75) 4 :heart: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN bets $7.50, Hero calls $7.50


      Villain is a bit to tight, calls 8% of hands on the Btn and 3bets 4% of Hands Btn vs Mp.

      He bets 50% vs missed Cbet.

      His Range hits the board realy hard, better than mine ( something around 60% to 40%)
      I would give him a range like that: QQ-55,AQs-ATs,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,T9s,AJo+,KQo

      How do u like the x-c to protect my x-f Range?
      What do u think about a "check only" strategy against tuffer opponents?
    • AggroNitt
      AggroNitt
      Gold
      Joined: 05.04.2011 Posts: 1,180
      Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 2646931
      DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

      BTN: $36.66 - VPIP: 9, PFR: 6, 3B: 2, AF: 3,5, Hands: 312
      Hero (SB): $43.80 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 17, 3B: 6, AF: 2,7, Hands: 20290
      BB: $25.00 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 13, 3B: 7, AF: 3,5, Hands: 11687
      UTG: $28.47 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 12, 3B: 4, AF: 3,8, Hands: 31837
      UTG+1: $21.78 - VPIP: 14, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0,0, Hands: 7
      UTG+2: $26.13 - VPIP: 11, PFR: 6, 3B: 4, AF: 0,0, Hands: 71
      MP1: $129.64 - VPIP: 10, PFR: 8, 3B: 4, AF: 2,7, Hands: 8195
      MP2: $35.88 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 13, 3B: 6, AF: 4,7, Hands: 268
      CO: $25.00 - VPIP: 14, PFR: 10, 3B: 5, AF: 2,2, Hands: 1030

      Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with A :club: 8 :club:
      4 folds, MP2 raises to $0.70, CO calls $0.70, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.70, 1 fold, MP2 calls $2, CO calls $2

      Flop: ($8.35) 6 :diamond: 9 :spade: A :spade: (3 players)
      Hero checks, MP2 bets $4.00, CO folds, Hero calls $4

      Turn: ($16.35) 2 :club: (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP2 bets $7.80, Hero calls $7.80

      River: ($31.95) J :club: (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP2 bets $21.38, Hero calls $21.38

      I dont have much Hands on them but both player are folding to much on 3bets so far and i decided to go for a squeeze.

      I guess I should cbet more linear than polarized in these situations to avoid this ugly spot and to protect my Hand..
    • AggroNitt
      AggroNitt
      Gold
      Joined: 05.04.2011 Posts: 1,180
      Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 2646934
      DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

      BTN: $25.80 - VPIP: 29, PFR: 14, 3B: 0, AF: 1,0, Hands: 7
      Hero (SB): $38.92 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 17, 3B: 6, AF: 2,7, Hands: 20290
      BB: $25.91 - VPIP: 12, PFR: 8, 3B: 2, AF: 1,5, Hands: 346
      UTG: $41.80 - VPIP: 14, PFR: 10, 3B: 4, AF: 2,2, Hands: 951
      UTG+1: $26.93 - VPIP: 8, PFR: 5, 3B: 2, AF: 2,4, Hands: 20112
      UTG+2: $63.58 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 13, 3B: 6, AF: 5,0, Hands: 631
      MP1: $29.10 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 14, 3B: 5, AF: 4,0, Hands: 276
      MP2: $12.45 - VPIP: 14, PFR: 14, 3B: 0, AF: 2,5, Hands: 21
      CO: $18.13 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 11, 3B: 0, AF: 0,9, Hands: 84

      Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with K :spade: K :club:
      6 folds, BTN raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.40, 1 fold, BTN calls $1.65

      Flop: ($5.05) 9 :club: J :heart: 7 :heart: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN bets $2.89, Hero calls $2.89

      Turn: ($10.83) 6 :spade: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN checks

      River: ($10.83) 5 :club: (2 players)
      Hero bets $4.80, BTN calls $4.80

      V completly unknown. His perceeved Range hits realy hard again.

      Bet or check?
    • AggroNitt
      AggroNitt
      Gold
      Joined: 05.04.2011 Posts: 1,180
      Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 2646936
      DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

      BTN: $47.40 - VPIP: 32, PFR: 21, 3B: 9, AF: 1,7, Hands: 796
      SB: $27.54 - VPIP: 13, PFR: 7, 3B: 1, AF: 3,8, Hands: 506
      Hero (BB): $62.37 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 17, 3B: 6, AF: 2,7, Hands: 20290
      UTG: $25.41 - VPIP: 6, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0,0, Hands: 17
      UTG+1: $66.74 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 11, 3B: 4, AF: 3,2, Hands: 18280
      UTG+2: $34.07 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 15, 3B: 5, AF: 1,2, Hands: 287
      MP1: $26.57 - VPIP: 29, PFR: 12, 3B: 0, AF: 3,0, Hands: 17
      MP2: $42.71 - VPIP: 14, PFR: 10, 3B: 3, AF: 1,7, Hands: 301
      CO: $41.81 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 5, 3B: 11, AF: 4,0, Hands: 20

      Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with A :club: K :club:
      3 folds, MP1 raises to $0.75, 1 fold, CO calls $0.75, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2.70, MP1 calls $1.95, 1 fold

      Flop: ($6.25) 5 :club: T :heart: 5 :diamond: (2 players)
      Hero bets $2.90, MP1 raises to $5.80, Hero calls $2.90

      Turn: ($17.85) 7 :heart: (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP1 bets $5.00, Hero folds


      Villain is pretty unknown and I have a real small Range so i dont want to split it into a betting and checking Range. I guess i should check my hole Range couse i cant expect him folding much with my blufs and he probably would bet him self most of his pairs to protect against high cards..
    • AggroNitt
      AggroNitt
      Gold
      Joined: 05.04.2011 Posts: 1,180
      Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 2646942
      DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

      BTN: $69.50
      SB: $42.53
      BB: $65.51
      UTG: $25.86
      UTG+1: $20.74
      UTG+2: $69.75
      Hero (MP1): $25.00
      MP2: $32.18
      CO: $25.21

      Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is MP1 with 7 :diamond: 6 :diamond:
      3 folds, Hero raises to $0.60, 1 fold, CO calls $0.60, 3 folds

      Flop: ($1.55) 8 :diamond: K :club: 6 :spade: (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.33, CO calls $1.33

      Turn: ($4.21) 2 :diamond: (2 players)
      Hero bets $3.70, CO calls $3.70

      River: ($11.61) Q :diamond: (2 players)
      Hero bets $7, CO calls $7

      V unknown
      I normaly cbet Hands like this couse i dont want to x-c 3pair on the Flop.. standard or would u guys give up or x-c?
    • AggroNitt
      AggroNitt
      Gold
      Joined: 05.04.2011 Posts: 1,180
      Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 2646945
      DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

      BTN: $33.61
      SB: $30.42
      BB: $48.86
      UTG: $70.67
      UTG+1: $27.60
      UTG+2: $20.03
      MP1: $25.00
      MP2: $26.62
      Hero (CO): $30.26

      Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with J :heart: A :diamond:
      5 folds, Hero raises to $0.50, BTN calls $0.50, 2 folds

      Flop: ($1.35) T :diamond: 9 :diamond: 6 :heart: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN bets $0.64, Hero raises to $2.40, BTN calls $1.76

      Turn: ($6.15) 7 :heart: (2 players)
      Hero bets $4.50, BTN calls $4.50

      River: ($15.15) A :club: (2 players)
      Hero bets $5, BTN calls $5


      V unknown, probably fish..

      I like the idear of x/r here especially against his sizing.
      How do you play this hand?

      Ok, I guess u guys have enough from me xD

      So choose a few hands..
    • Fiftage588
      Fiftage588
      Global
      Joined: 01.04.2014 Posts: 1,726
      iPoker - €0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BB: 45.5 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 22.52, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 114)
      UTG: 101.7 BB
      Hero (CO): 100 BB
      BTN: 144.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
      SB: 128.8 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 27.27, 3Bet Preflop: 4.17, Hands: 67)

      SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7:spade: T:spade:

      fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, BTN calls 2.5 BB, fold, fold

      Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) 4:club: 3:diamond: 5:spade:
      Hero checks, BTN bets 4.5 BB, Hero raises to 12 BB, BTN calls 7.5 BB
      x/r or not? cbet?
      Turn: (30.5 BB, 2 players) 9:spade:
      Hero bets 15.2 BB, BTN calls 15.2 BB

      River: (60.9 BB, 2 players) 7:heart:
      Hero checks, BTN bets 19 BB, Hero calls 19 BB
      my x/c here is horrible, i called only cuz AX missed and bet was low... but so so bad, imo 2 and 7 are worst rivers for calldown here
      Hero mucks 7:spade: T:spade: (One Pair, Sevens)
      (Pre 48%, Flop 21%, Turn 30%)
      BTN shows 6:diamond: 6:spade: (Straight, Seven High)
      (Pre 52%, Flop 79%, Turn 70%)
      BTN wins 92.4 BB
    • 3rdTimePlay
      3rdTimePlay
      Black
      Joined: 14.05.2008 Posts: 2,963
      MP3 is reg 3bet in MP 3% cold call 7-8%
      now i think xC flop is better... but i hope you know better ) what ranges do we xC xR flop and turn...
      Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players

      SB: $253.80 (126.9 bb)
      BB: $200 (100 bb)
      UTG+1: $200 (100 bb)
      UTG+2: $200 (100 bb)
      Hero (MP1): $240.25 (120.1 bb)
      MP2: $271.20 (135.6 bb)
      MP3: $254.12 (127.1 bb)
      CO: $98.84 (49.4 bb)
      BTN: $121.75 (60.9 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T:diamond: J:diamond:
      2 folds, Hero raises to $6, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $6, CO folds, BTN calls $6, 2 folds

      Flop: ($21) 8:heart: 2:diamond: 9:diamond: (3 players)
      Hero checks, MP3 bets $15, BTN folds, Hero raises to $40, MP3 calls $25

      Turn: ($101) 7:diamond: (2 players)
      Hero ???
    • flea1
      flea1
      Bronze
      Joined: 25.11.2008 Posts: 17
      $0.25/$0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      BU = ($53.40)
      SB = ($56.84)
      BB = ($50.00)
      MP2 (Hero) = ($100.93)
      MP3 = ($61.39)
      CO = ($74.01)

      Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A, K.
      Hero raises to $1.50, MP3 folds, CO calls $1.50, 3 folds, 2 folds, BB folds.

      Flop: ($3.75) 4, 8, K (2 players)
      Hero checks, CO bets $2.00, Hero calls $2.00.

      Turn: ($7.75) 2 (2 players)
      Hero checks, CO bets $5.50, Hero calls $5.50.

      River: ($18.75) 9 (2 players)
      Hero checks, CO bets $7.00, Hero calls $7.00.

      Final Pot: $32.75.
    • Cradlea
      Cradlea
      Bronze
      Joined: 11.02.2010 Posts: 555
      Full Tilt - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      SB: 74 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
      BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 34.48, PFR: 27.59, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 30)
      UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 20.35, PFR: 16.81, 3Bet Preflop: 5.88, Hands: 233)
      Hero (MP): 106.7 BB
      CO: 112 BB (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 11)
      BTN: 462.5 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)

      SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9:club: 9:spade:

      fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, BTN calls 2.5 BB, fold, fold

      Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) 9:heart: 8:club: T:spade:
      Hero bets 4.5 BB, BTN raises to 12 BB, Hero calls 7.5 BB

      Turn: (30.5 BB, 2 players) 3:club:
      Hero checks, BTN bets 18 BB, Hero calls 18 BB

      River: (66.5 BB, 2 players) Q:spade:
      Hero checks, BTN checks

      BTN shows 8:diamond: 8:heart: (Three of a Kind, Eights)
      (Pre 19%, Flop 7%, Turn 2%)
      Hero shows 9:club: 9:spade: (Three of a Kind, Nines)
      (Pre 81%, Flop 93%, Turn 98%)
      Hero wins 63.2 BB


      What would be the default play here? Most of the players at these stakes tend not to raise OESDs IP and usually raise on a drawy board IP means a really strong hand.

      If his value range looks like: TT,88,QJs,T8s+,98s,76s,QJo I don't think I have a value 3b here (~45% equity if he's going to GII with the whole range)? At the same time there are quite a few action killing cards that might come OTT.
    • Cradlea
      Cradlea
      Bronze
      Joined: 11.02.2010 Posts: 555
      Full Tilt - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      MP: 105 BB (VPIP: 28.21, PFR: 21.79, 3Bet Preflop: 10.71, Hands: 79)
      CO: 48 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 15.38, Hands: 42)
      BTN: 57.1 BB (VPIP: 18.10, PFR: 15.25, 3Bet Preflop: 5.66, Hands: 965)
      SB: 152 BB (VPIP: 21.74, PFR: 13.04, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 23)
      Hero (BB): 156.5 BB
      UTG: 74.7 BB (VPIP: 23.31, PFR: 15.97, 3Bet Preflop: 4.37, Hands: 1,002)

      SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 4:club: 3:club:

      fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.1 BB, SB calls 1.6 BB, Hero calls 1.1 BB

      Flop: (6.3 BB, 3 players) J:club: 3:spade: T:heart:
      SB bets 4.4 BB, Hero raises to 13.5 BB, BTN calls 13.5 BB, SB calls 9.1 BB

      Turn: (46.8 BB, 3 players) K:spade:
      SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets 24 BB, fold, fold

      BTN wins 44.5 BB


      Is it a good spot for a bluff raise here?
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