Micro Stakes Advice

    • Hackminz
      Hackminz
      Basic
      Joined: 07.02.2015 Posts: 1
      I've been playing microstakes for the best part of a month now (0.05/0.10 Cents), and have had many troubles. I've had an interest in poker since a young age, and have read many books so like to think I have a fairly good grasp on the game. However, no matter how hard I try, I can't seem to turn a solid profit at these stakes. Books by Phil Gordon and various online articles would lead me to believe that a good poker player can crush these sorts of stakes, by employing a tight/aggressive strategy, but I have had no such success. I largely discount bluffing at these stakes and attempt to value bet my hands, but from the amount I miss the flop despite having premium starting hands, I turn over very little profit. Could I grab some advice on any of the issues I've raised, and let me know what your strategy is for these types of games.

      Thanks! :f_drink:
  • 12 replies
    • GingerKid
      GingerKid
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      Joined: 05.08.2007 Posts: 5,570
      I think that micros are not that easy as they used to be, so that you can simply wait for value hands and have high profit. You also have to fold vs value heavy aggression and recogniue using stats who is value heavy.
      Also to bluff vs guys who fold too much vs specific agression using stats (there is a lot of profit in this, e.g bluff cbet flop, bluff vs missed cbet, 3bet, steal blinds ...
      Also most of casinos are full of bots, who dont play super good but dont tilt and dont make big mistakes (no spews). So generally best is to play on stars to avoid bots (stars also have bots, but less due to protection)
    • peddy53
      peddy53
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      Joined: 21.11.2009 Posts: 105
      Hi.
      First of all, if you are just starting, why are you in NL10?
      Even if you can play there, I would keep the bankroll, play NL2 for a month, same withNL5 the next.
      Phil Gordon is well outdated, there are so many books now.
      I would suggest Ryan Fees as it is free, there is mbml's books and although never read them, it looks good valure for money or maybe no bullshit 6max( this last one helped me a lot for start at 6max).

      Thanks
    • Matorzinho
      Matorzinho
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      Joined: 24.05.2013 Posts: 114
      Add me as a friend here (just sent you a request there), and I will send you my skype where we can discuss hands etc.

      See ya.
    • zommm
      zommm
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      Joined: 04.02.2012 Posts: 9
      If you are educating your self about poker, it is better that you quit microstakes. Invest more money and play at some stakes where skill matters more than luck.
    • DrDunne
      DrDunne
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      Joined: 29.12.2010 Posts: 3,378
      Originally posted by peddy53
      Phil Gordon is well outdated, there are so many books now.
      I would suggest Ryan Fees as it is free
      But wasn't Ryan Fee's book around since dinosaurs as well?

      I recommend just joining coachings here, posting some hands.... asking questions... but most of all, drop down to nl2 and play play play. The more hands you play the better experience you will get. But seriously, play nl2 even if you have the roll for nl10+. Unless you like depositing!
    • Tomaloc
      Tomaloc
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      Joined: 17.01.2011 Posts: 6,901
      Originally posted by zommm
      If you are educating your self about poker, it is better that you quit microstakes. Invest more money and play at some stakes where skill matters more than luck.
      solid
    • parky0318RNMD
      parky0318RNMD
      Bronze
      Joined: 25.11.2008 Posts: 5
      I stopped playing for a few years and have come back for some fun, I was okay microstakes player before always made money but struggled for a while till I started watching videos here. Confidant91's beginner videos turned my game around and made me much sharper. Still in just two weeks, back to winning and building my stake to get to 25nl. Watch the videos here and I bet your game will turn profitable right away.
    • VorpalF2F
      VorpalF2F
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      Joined: 02.09.2010 Posts: 9,420
      Hi, parky0318RNMD
      Welcome to PokerStrategy.com! (again)

      Do you notice the difference in the games between now and when you played before?

      Are they tougher, easier or about the same?

      Best of luck,
      VS
    • parky0318RNMD
      parky0318RNMD
      Bronze
      Joined: 25.11.2008 Posts: 5
      I think the 5 nl on Bovada which are anonymous took me a while to get used to playing again without hud or other aid. The Big Stack Strategy works well on this limit and I am beginning to identify player types without use of hud. I find the zoom type poker on Bovada has a mix of tough good players and fish, I can avoid the better players on the regular games by looking for tables with lots of less than full stacks as they are almost always fish, so I prefer regular tables at this point. I find that players do a lot more 3 betting than I was used to, I am comfortable with alot of limpers, more aggressive games I have a lot of trouble with; and am not comfortable 4 betting without a great hand yet.
    • VorpalF2F
      VorpalF2F
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      Joined: 02.09.2010 Posts: 9,420
      and am not comfortable 4 betting without a great hand yet.
      I'm with you on that one.

      Very rarely I will bluff 4Bet if a player has 3Bet an excessive amount (10% or more) over a decent stretch of hands, but most of the time, if I 4Bet I have a hand.

      I can avoid the better players on the regular games by looking for tables with lots of less than full stacks as they are almost always fish
      Good point, though every so often you come across a player who is actually playing a short- or mid-stack strategy. But they're not usually around long in either case.

      Best of luck,
      VS
    • ototot13
      ototot13
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      Joined: 06.06.2013 Posts: 9
      see videos of confident91 first, then W34z3l walkthrouh seri I think you can beat NL 10 easy. Or you can buy "yolosaurus go all in" course by Galvin Bay(mmbl) and focus on this!
    • svonja
      svonja
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      Joined: 27.05.2010 Posts: 212
      Do you notice the difference in the games between now and when you played before?