*Originally posted by Lazza61*

Hey shatteredaces,

Only FullTilt apply a time concept to their card distribution. This is called random shuffling so even between streets the cards are being consistently shuffled.

I have heard a million conspiracy theorists argue that you need to time your action. Doing this opens you to random probabilities based on your perception of the timing involved which is irrelevant because even that is random.

Why do you think 1.000.000 decks is finite. Because it simply isn't.

Regards

Laz

I think you may misunderstand what I have said. Lets me try to clarify it for you, 1-5 random shuffled, 1-5 are the variants to a set, 1-5 is a ''block'' group of random that will over time repeat the same values and over infinite time all the numbers over time will have an even amount of time they are drawn.

You always have a 1/5 chance of guessing the drawn number where as the dealer odds change each go, if the dealer deals a number 1, their probability of drawing another 1 the next go increase, 5^2, where as your odds always remain 1/5.

A reverse probability and not a gamblers fallacy, when someone says 0 on a roulette wheel as got to come, they are essentially correct, over time it will make an appearance, no dissimilar to receiving pocket aces, that is why probabilities work of the means average.

All probability games, has the function of sequences made by per go, or per shuffle , although the values are unknown, you win or lose dependent on good or bad timing of your choice bet.

This is a standard probability game, poker differs in that once the cards are shuffled, and the deck is set, the cards that are set, are set to seat position, so although you do not know that the 8th card is an ace, if it is set there, and your seat is aligned to the deal position, you are guaranteed that ace.

If you can now imagine the 1-5 again shuffled, this time there is 5 players who in turn are distributed one of the random variants, out of the 5 numbers , only number 3 is a win.

your odds are 1/5 of winning each go.

now imagine 1,000,000 of blocks of 1-5, and they are already all shuffled, your odds are no longer 1-5 because the setting of the shuffle has predefined the results to all seats,

In this example we have 100 turns

player 1 wins 10%

player 2 wins 10%

player 3 wins 20%

player 4 wins 5%

player 5 wins 55%

The sequences that are set unknowingly look like this -

12345

21345

12453

12345

25413

54213

24153

etc.

This is based on a single table of 5 players.

now add another 4 tables, so 5 tables in total, the results will be very different, you would need ''more luck'' to receive a winning sequence,you could in essence receive all decks that are a loss and have no 3 in your position.

the odds are something like 1/5/1,000,000/5

You are not relying on just the shuffle to put a winning sequence in your path over time, you are also relying on a 1,000,000 deck roulette wheel to give you a deck that as the set sequence that gives you a win.

the luck of the timing is essential in poker, nobody wants to time bad decks in a later stage of a MTT.

The cards and the randomness suppose to run its natural path, based on one deck, a muti deck system does not allow an even probability distribution over periods of time.

12345

21345

12453

12345

25413

54213

24153

etc.

This represents a single deck and single table, now imagine the distribution pattern if by timing the decks were chosen random, in this instant player 5, gets deck 1 and 4.