Crazy live game strategy?

    • Bojan1983
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      I am profitable online NL player but I there is finally regular NL at my town casino...

      Problem, or good thing is that table is full of rich gamblers who obviously got tired of roulette...

      Game is 2$/4$, and average raise is 20-30$ with 2-3 callers... I dont know how to play at that table, you cant bluff, cbet is stupid if you miss a flop cause you ll get called with anything... I know thats a dream come true for every poker player, but still, i dont know how to play...

      Should i play with 30-40 BBs and just push all in when i get premium hand? Or should i go play full stack really tight?

      I tried to play 1/1€ 3 weeks ago...
      I set down with 100€... i played tight, and folded many hands... finally i pick up some small pair or AQ, AJ from late position... and raise 4-5 times... instant reraise to 20€... i fold... i mean, i dont wanna gamble... real fast i got to 55€, missed some flops with AK, cbet got floated and i had to fold...
      Finally i pick up JJ on the button, 6 limpers, i raise x10, up to 10€... 3 callers... flop 77T... all check to me, and i push rest of 45€ in to the pot... 1 calls, and other pushes allin... caller folds and allin guy showes K7... sick? nope, normal...


      btw, at this 2$/4$ live crazy table, i saw pot get up to 4000$ preflop... so thats how crazy it is...

      what strategy would you recommend to me?
  • 11 replies
    • Puciek
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      Adapt to other players and observe ! If you pick a hand lika AQ and got reraised by a donk whos raises are based on local weather, push this bastard all in, you are ahead.
      As for playing rich local gamblers, you must get more money ;)
    • elhh82
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      play tight, and really aggressive when u catch.

      make less c-bets (semi bluff) if your opponents never fold.

      if they start adjusting to you (ie fold when you enter), then you can start loosening up by making steal raises and making more semi-bluff c-bets. If they never wise up to your tight play, then just keep playing tight and wait for the money to roll in.

      You'd need a lot of patience tho, and probably tighter BRM. Don't let the suckouts affect your game.

      (i do not play live games, so take what i said with a big pinch of salt)
    • Fongie
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      Just try to push preflop when you're ahead (premium hands) if there are so many callers with 7bb raises, expect some variance but in the end it should be very profitable
    • TribunCaesar
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      You got some good tips here. Play very tight and aggrssive when you have something. Against a maniac AQ is a preflop all-in. If you think that's to much money, then you don't have the right bankroll and should play lower stakes or sss.


      Best regards,
      TribunCaesar
    • delete461
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      Also try to see as many cheap flops as you can with speculative hands like low pairs and suited connectors/one gappers. You will get paid off big time when they hit.
    • Fongie
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      Originally posted by delete461
      Also try to see as many cheap flops as you can with speculative hands like low pairs and suited connectors/one gappers. You will get paid off big time when they hit.
      Seems rather impossible when it's raised 5-7bb preflop :P
    • delete461
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      lol yeah obviously, though it doesnt seem that every single hand is raised preflop
    • Puciek
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      In those maniac games it will be almost every hand raised, limping has no place here because well, most time it will get pushed. Altho slowplaying AA pref may be profitable and so on.
    • Solomaextra
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      In those games you can call a raise with almost any 2 preflop in position, even the hand like 75o is profitable because of implied odds, but don't do this if blinds often 3bet or people like to play limp-3bet. Playing strong hands raise preflop with much agression, raise Aces 15xBB if they don't care :-)
    • SalamiandCheese
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      Is this FR or SH? It sounds like a couple SH tables I've experienced the last couple days at Stars NL25. 3-bet crazy, over-calling with anything, and of course I'm not getting the hands to push when I'm in the pot. Conditions that are fairly different than at iPoker, conditions I haven't been able to beat playing TAG.

      My hunch for these types of games is that they're gambling with anything when the pot starts to get big. Seeing someone raise and increase the pot is just an invitation for these greedy gamblers to take a chance at it. They probably just end up sucking-out on each other all night long. Without the roll for it, and even with the roll, you'll probably end up getting screwed over fast.

      But if you're going to play it, play a short-stack strategy with a full stack. Raise big or small to be unpredictable preflop and get ready to cbet-push the flop with statistically good hands. Keep in mind I don't know what the hell I'm talking about. :D
    • Maniatrix
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      This sounds like a dream table to play at. I hate playing against tight players because they are so hard to squeeze for money. As I understood it, every pot is raised preflop, so limp-reraise all in your jacks, queens, kings, aces and ace king. Call a raise from position with small pockets, suited connectors, suited face cards, suited aces (your implied odds is always the rest of their stack because they will go broke on any flop), and fold everything else.