switch in luck at pokerstars after making a request

    • 1taz4devil
      1taz4devil
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      Joined: 31.10.2012 Posts: 26
      Hi guys,

      i want to know if anyone has this problem.
      a few months ago i made a request to pokerstars as the connection went down and they most politly returned 50 euros to me as the but-ins of the games i played at that moment.first time ever when i did this.
      but after that i feeled like something has changed .
      i`ve sent them an email as it was really brutal and they said the same things as variance can occur anytime and downswings can last forever.
      anyway i feel like i`m loosing it and i want some help ...

      is anyone else see this kind of coincidence ?

      i`ve attached a hm2 allin ev grafiic before and after that day.first few weeeks wore worst and it is very difficult to stay on top.and those alllin looses are not all i`m seeeing.all kinds of setups ... anyway i know i shouldnt be complaining but i feel like i`m loosing control somtimes.


      the game is spin and go 5 euro.

      http://postimg.org/image/4cb4326kt/

      http://postimg.org/image/le3y55lfx/

      http://postimg.org/image/gthrq81ql/
  • 7 replies
    • 1taz4devil
      1taz4devil
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      Joined: 31.10.2012 Posts: 26
      so the graphs are before and after that day. ... i would really like to hear if someone else had this kind of problem.

      it`s like they have a switch to put on a player like turning up the volume of the music.if they put it down you don`t hear the music no more :)

      PS i know it sounds crazy :)
    • Dadramel
      Dadramel
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      Joined: 10.08.2014 Posts: 2,222
      Why would they want u to go bankrupt? Their earnings come with rake what gives us a simple conclusion - more players, more money.

      Beside your not the first one who received compensation due to stars' fault
    • 1taz4devil
      1taz4devil
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      Joined: 31.10.2012 Posts: 26
      what i`m saying is that (if you watch the graphics) the difference between the allin EV line and the winnnings line is getting bigger every day.
      if before that day things were kind of the same after that the luck adjusted winnings just go way different.
      it`s like someone put a 0.8 in front of my chances of winning.
      in theese graphs are over 120k hands and over 5k games played.
      please watch the graphs and tell me if there is nothing suspicios.

      this is before 13 may : http://postimg.org/image/4cb4326kt/

      and this is after that day : http://postimg.org/image/gthrq81ql/

      and the difference between allin ev line and the winnings line is getting bigger everyday.it is extremely frustrating to play in theese conditions :( and i want some advice how to deal with it without breaking any more stuff .
    • Dadramel
      Dadramel
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      Joined: 10.08.2014 Posts: 2,222
      It's called downswing, everyone had to face that sooner or later. Nothing to worry about, just don't blame soft and eventually "odds will be in your favor"
    • RLdiamond5
      RLdiamond5
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      Joined: 18.06.2014 Posts: 30
      Originally posted by 1taz4devil
      what i`m saying is that (if you watch the graphics) the difference between the allin EV line and the winnnings line is getting bigger every day.
      if before that day things were kind of the same after that the luck adjusted winnings just go way different.
      it`s like someone put a 0.8 in front of my chances of winning.
      in theese graphs are over 120k hands and over 5k games played.
      please watch the graphs and tell me if there is nothing suspicios.

      this is before 13 may : http://postimg.org/image/4cb4326kt/

      and this is after that day : http://postimg.org/image/gthrq81ql/

      and the difference between allin ev line and the winnings line is getting bigger everyday.it is extremely frustrating to play in theese conditions :( and i want some advice how to deal with it without breaking any more stuff .
      I might totally agree with you, there is something fishy and you are not the only player who can smell this. I'v had many similar issues with pokerstars, such as in 2014 i made a withdrawal of 2000$... Trust me I played around d 10k hands afterwards and I can assure you something was different...The bad beats rate increased easily by around 10%. Heads up games became extremely difficult and i kept losing good hands...I had to change my whole gameplay and focus more on bankroll management because it felt as if there was some dark energy aiming to kill my bankroll.

      I reallly agree with you and I am sure there is something behind it, some small formula alteration perhaps to some players, I cant tell.

      But at least you are using the graphs, this might arouse caution in pokerstars team.. Would definitely be interested in a further investigation.
    • 1taz4devil
      1taz4devil
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      Joined: 31.10.2012 Posts: 26
      i really don`t want to think like that but some days are just brutal.and the sample is quite large ( over 120k hands).

      i will keep track and if there are some other players who met this kind of coincidence should say it....

      i`ve sent them an email and they said that is just a downswing and the moment that started is a coincidence.

      there are 3 months since then and it still on :( hope for the day when it will turn around :)

      i really want it to be just in my head.
    • JediMasterC
      JediMasterC
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      Joined: 02.12.2010 Posts: 55
      Man, when your premium hands cant hold for shit when pushing towards late stages of tourney or your dominating hands cannot hold for shit, or RNG is "constantly" pushing out action hands... well then obviously there is something wrong.

      I mean is it even meaningful to debate that in environment where there is no regulation and transparency, we can expect honesty? When money talks, bullshit walks, especially in such environments!