[NL2-NL10] KQ complete

    • DaPhunk
      DaPhunk
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      Joined: 01.03.2008 Posts: 2,805
      Party Poker
      No Limit Holdem Ring game
      Blinds: $0.50/$1
      8 players
      Converter

      Stack sizes:
      UTG: $64.58
      UTG+1: $98.00
      MP1: $89.47
      MP2: $99.00
      CO: $20.57
      Button: $102.56
      Hero: $22.70
      BB: $100.00

      Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is SB with K Q
      UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls, BB checks.

      Flop: 7 Q 7 ($5, 5 players)
      Hero bets $4, 2 folds, CO raises all-in $19.57, Button calls, Hero ???

      Villain Stats;

      Vpip/Pfr/Ats/foldbb2steal
      AF/Fold2Cbet/WTS/Hands

      CO;
      74/9/0/33
      18.2/82//16/66

      BU;
      29/7/7/75
      2.2/62/26/2.5k

      So i decided to try Passive play this time. Thoughts?
  • 8 replies
    • matt1234
      matt1234
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      Joined: 06.05.2008 Posts: 99
      Any reads?

      Fwiw I fold here. CO probably has a flush draw or a 7 and BB on a freeplay can wake up with a 7 as well.... What were your thoughts?
    • DaPhunk
      DaPhunk
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      Joined: 01.03.2008 Posts: 2,805
      My thoughts are "Wow, CO instapush and BB instacall looks Strong, but i'm getting 3.6:1 odds here.... Still looks bad though"
    • matt1234
      matt1234
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      Against 4 others on the flop, its unlikely that you win that hand 1/4 times I would have thought. Fold for me... (I'm uber-tight though)
    • burek2000
      burek2000
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      Joined: 16.11.2007 Posts: 3,105
      I'd say pushing preflop with three limpers is so much easier. :)

      What can I say, you limp with KQo and hit TPTK, what else would you like to hit with that hand? ;)
      I think if you decided to limp with that, then you have no option but to call here, despite actions of the opposition look very strong. With your odds you'll see them holding weaker hands often enough to make a call and be profitable. Their stats are quite fishy, so you should be good in the long run.

      BTW, I just saw... ...CO's AF is 18.2. :) Now I think you definitly have him beat and BU could have a FD or something...
    • Bedoze
      Bedoze
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      Joined: 24.10.2008 Posts: 112
      I would fold since the Button is pretty tight.

      I would call CO all-in if there were no callers.
    • matt1234
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      burek, I think the 'you called with XX and hit the board, you have to play here' argument is poor because it is almost irrespective of other play. Yes this is a good flop for your hand and the way it is played, but with the action before I think that he is more than a 3.6:1 dog here and therefore must fold.
    • IngolPoker
      IngolPoker
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      Joined: 05.09.2006 Posts: 10,481
      instapush preflop....they are loose, you have an edge, what are you waiting for? ^^
    • burek2000
      burek2000
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      Originally posted by matt1234
      burek, I think the 'you called with XX and hit the board, you have to play here' argument is poor because it is almost irrespective of other play. Yes this is a good flop for your hand and the way it is played, but with the action before I think that he is more than a 3.6:1 dog here and therefore must fold.
      I didn't say that for being irrespective, but the fact is, if you call with hand like KQo, there's not many hands you can hit on the flop that would be better than TPTK and with the paired board, I think villains will hardly be ahead of us with their wide range and considering this I would go for a call.

      But as I said yesterday, preflop push would be my choice.