Status downgrade in exchange for free bets / spins

    • tonypmm
      tonypmm
      Silver
      Joined: 11.01.2009 Posts: 4,411
      Dear Pokerstrategy!

      I feel that it will be unfair if I start raking more on the tracked account (PokerStars) and the additional commission you'll be getting will be spent on the salary of Platinum and Diamond coaches*, who mostly specialise in NLHE cash games and whose content I therefore don't watch and moreover, you'd rather I not watch it because you (as well as poker operators) would like me to play and punt more instead of having a bigger winrate.

      * In general, I think the status system, with fixed baskets of content that contain a lot of things that a member doesn't need, is less fair than a system of liquid 'coaching tokens' that could be spent on individual videos and entrance to group coachings of the member's choice.

      A substantial part of your Diamond offer is parties, and again, the expenditure is distributed unfairly among members because some of them live in the cities where the parties are held, while some can't attend because the travel expenses would be bigger than the value of the party itself. Besides, I think I'm not the only individualist here who doesn't like 'being teambuilt'.

      So I'd like you and the partner poker rooms to think about mutually satisfactory player incentives alternative to the current status system. It would be nice if a status earned by raking could be exchanged for free tournament tickets, sports bets or casino spins, at a rate equal to or slightly lower than the difference (pro-rated if some part of the status term has passed, or in full if the request is made in advance) between the monthly prices of the statuses in the shop: e.g. Platinum ($39/month) could be downgraded to Gold ($19/month) in exchange for a $20 free bankroll or 3x€5 Twister tokens. (I'm fine with it being slightly lower because surely the cost of making a video lineup per viewer is substantially less than the amount charged from a non-raking member for it.) I'm sure the rooms would love to see poker players try their other products instead of watching your videos.

      Thanks for consideration!
  • 3 replies
    • UPAY4DINNER
      UPAY4DINNER
      Gold
      Joined: 27.09.2009 Posts: 21,968
      Interesting idea to say the least.

      I do agree with your points here. There is definitely a need for change.
    • la55i
      la55i
      Moderator
      Moderator
      Joined: 27.01.2013 Posts: 6,517
      I think the current status system works ok. I don't really like about the idea of coaching tokens. I was inactive for about 6 months and there were new videos and I'm happy that I can view them all whenever I want. And I really don't want any tournament tickets or casino spins. There are a couple of things that can be improved though. I'm a silver member and with my volume it is quite hard to reach gold and a lot of interesting coachings, like Emergency room: hands under review, are for gold members. There is not much new content for me :f_mad:

      It would be nice to get status upgrades for free sometimes. For example as a Christmas present or as forum activity reward or something like that. When there was a Finnish community I was able to take part in very interesting coachings and I was able to post my hands and a coach would review them. I feel like Pokerstrategy doesn't give me as much as it did 2 years ago. I understand that if I rake 100$ a month it is not very profitable to create new content and provide me coachings but I think some changes should be done.
    • tonypmm
      tonypmm
      Silver
      Joined: 11.01.2009 Posts: 4,411
      Hi la55i, I agree that the Silver and (to some extent) Gold offers are worth their prices, however, the Platinum and Diamond ones definitely aren't, and I'm looking for a kind of a 'money / rake back guarantee'.

      Note that I don't want the status benefits to be removed; those who find it useful should be given an opportunity to make use of it. But members shouldn't be forced into studying because it's no longer consistent with what poker rooms require from Pokerstrategy as an affiliate.