0.20$ SNG on Mansion

    • Maniatrix
      Maniatrix
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.11.2008 Posts: 674
      I have had some problems finding a HH converter for Ipoker, but I found a site http://www.talking-poker.com that let me convert hands. They only emailed me my hands that went to showdown and I could not find out which tournament was what in my folder due to them being ranged in numbers instead of room names and time so I just took the last one but I guess any of them is ok to give a hint to how I play. It is too bad I can't get the hands where I folded, because I sometimes feel afterwords I make bad folds in certain situations.
      I would like someone to have a look at it though, what I did wrong, right, etc. I realise that I am a noob and I am very open to critiscism.

      I have included most of the hands I went to showdown with.

      Hand 1: 30/60
      Button (850)
      SB (3275)
      BB (2760)
      UTG (870)
      UTG+1 Hero (1360)
      CO-1 (1005)
      CO (4880)

      Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Ks Qd
      UTG calls 60, Hero raises to 1360, 2 folds, Button moves all-in for 850, 3 folds.

      Flop (2360) Kd 9h Kh

      Turn (2360) 6s

      River (2360) 9c

      Maybe a bit loose with over 20 big blinds, what do you think?


      Hand 2: 30/60
      Button (2670)
      SB (750)
      BB Hero (2360)
      UTG (1005)
      UTG+1 (4880)
      CO (3335)

      Preflop: Hero is in the BB with Kc 9d
      4 folds, SB calls 30, Hero checks.

      Flop (120) Qh 9h 3c
      SB checks, Hero bets 120, 1 fold


      Hand 3:
      Skipping this one, had aces, hand played itself and added to my stack.


      Hand 4: 50/100
      Button (5640)
      SB (1420)
      BB (2500)
      UTG Hero (5440)

      Preflop: Hero is UTG with 6h 6c
      Hero raises to 300, 1 fold, SB calls 250, 1 fold.

      Flop (700) 4s 8s 2c
      SB checks, Hero bets 700, SB calls 700.

      Turn (2100) Jd
      SB checks, Hero bets 1050, 1 fold


      Hand 5: 50/100
      Button (890)
      SB (2400)
      BB Hero (6540)
      UTG (5170)

      Preflop: Hero is in the BB with 8h Ts
      1 fold, Button calls 100, SB calls 50, Hero checks.

      Flop (300) Ac Qh Ah
      SB checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

      Turn (300) Td
      SB checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

      River (300) 5h
      SB checks, Hero checks, Button checks

      Button shows Kc 2h
      SB shows 8d Kh
      Hero shows 8h Ts
      Hmm, should I have tried to bluff at some point?

      Hand 6: 100/200
      Button (2300)
      SB Hero (6840)
      BB (2805)
      UTG (3055)

      Preflop: Hero is in the SB with Js Qc
      2 folds, Hero raises to 6840, 1 fold


      Hand 7: 100/200
      Button (3055)
      SB (2100)
      BB Hero (7040)
      UTG (2805)

      Preflop: Hero is in the BB with 9s Jh
      1 fold, Button calls 200, 1 fold, Hero checks.

      Flop (500) Ac Kh Th
      Hero bets 400, Button calls 400.

      Turn (1300) Kc
      Hero bets 800, 1 fold


      Hand 8: 100/200
      Button (2600)
      SB Hero (7040)
      BB (3105)
      UTG (2255)

      Preflop: Hero is in the SB with Jd Kc
      UTG calls 200, 1 fold, Hero raises to 7040, 2 folds


      Hand 9: 150/300
      Button (2150)
      SB Hero (7590)
      BB (2755)
      UTG (2505)

      Preflop: Hero is in the SB with Kd 9h
      2 folds, Hero raises to 900, 1 fold


      Hand 10: 150/300
      Button Hero (8340)
      SB (2905)
      BB (2055)
      UTG (1700)

      Preflop: Hero is on the Button with As 2c
      1 fold, Hero raises to 900, 1 fold, BB calls 600.

      Flop (1950) 8h 8c Tc
      BB checks, Hero bets 1950, BB moves all-in for 1155.

      Turn (5055) 7d

      River (5055) Qd


      Hand 11: 150/300
      Button Hero (6285)
      SB (2905)
      BB (4110)
      UTG (1700)

      Preflop: Hero is on the Button with 8s Ks
      1 fold, Hero raises to 900, 2 folds


      Hand 12: 150/300
      Button (6865)
      SB (1400)
      BB Hero (6735)

      Preflop: Hero is in the BB with Ad 2h
      1 fold, SB raises to 1400, Hero calls 1100.


      Hand 13: 150/300
      Button (7015)
      BB Hero (7985)

      Preflop: Hero is in the BB with Jd 5d
      Button calls 150, Hero raises to 600, Button raises to 900, Hero calls 300.

      Flop (1950) Ks Kd 8h
      Hero bets 900, Button calls 900.

      Turn (3750) Qc
      Hero bets 6185, Button moves all-in for 5215.

      River (15150) 6s


      Hand 14: 150/300
      Button Hero (970)
      BB (14030)

      Preflop: Hero is on the Button with Js 7h
      Hero raises to 970, BB calls 670.


      Hand 15: 150/300
      Button Hero (2090)
      BB (12910)

      Preflop: Hero is on the Button with 7c Kc
      Hero raises to 2090, BB calls 1790.


      Hand 16: 200/400
      Button (10820)
      BB Hero (4180)

      Preflop: Hero is in the BB with Ad 4s
      Button calls 200, Hero raises to 4180, Button calls 3780.


      Hand 17:
      Button Hero (8360)
      BB (6640)

      Preflop: Hero is on the Button with Ks Tc
      Hero raises to 1200, 1 fold


      Hand 18:
      Button Hero (8360)
      BB (6640)

      Preflop: Hero is on the Button with 5d Ac
      Hero raises to 1200, BB calls 800.

      Flop (2600) 7s 3d 8d
      BB bets 400, Hero raises to 7160, BB moves all-in for 5040.


      That's it for the hands, I really wish there was a better way to get the hands from Ipoker posted on this forum. It seems the site I used was a one time try out only so I guess I have to find somewhere else to do it.
      By the way, I do realize that I made some bad moves and got really lucky, I mostly get knocked out due to these bad moves.
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    • Freaky304
      Freaky304
      Bronze
      Joined: 12.04.2008 Posts: 63

      Hand 1: 30/60
      Button (850)
      SB (3275)
      BB (2760)
      UTG (870)
      UTG+1 Hero (1360)
      CO-1 (1005)
      CO (4880)

      Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Ks Qd
      UTG calls 60, Hero raises to 1360, 2 folds, Button moves all-in for 850, 3 folds.

      Flop (2360) Kd 9h Kh

      Turn (2360) 6s

      River (2360) 9c

      Maybe a bit loose with over 20 big blinds, what do you think?
      Yes it is too loose imo, especially on the micro/lower limits, those guys are calling stations you are lucky not to be called by 2 or 3 people, you shouldn't throw your money in with non-premium hands before you hit 13 or less big blinds (reccomendation download the ICM trainer and (re-)read the articles on sng's especially This one and this one. Until you develop a good feel for the game you should play the charts and don't deviate from them.


      Hand 4: 50/100
      Button (5640)
      SB (1420)
      BB (2500)
      UTG Hero (5440)

      Preflop: Hero is UTG with 6h 6c
      Hero raises to 300, 1 fold, SB calls 250, 1 fold.

      Flop (700) 4s 8s 2c
      SB checks, Hero bets 700, SB calls 700.

      Turn (2100) Jd
      SB checks, Hero bets 1050, 1 fold
      I would have just called pre-flop and made 1/2 pot bets for the rest of the hand, but maybe this is better, I can't really say medium and low pocket pairs are my biggest weakness.


      Hand 5: 50/100
      Button (890)
      SB (2400)
      BB Hero (6540)
      UTG (5170)

      Preflop: Hero is in the BB with 8h Ts
      1 fold, Button calls 100, SB calls 50, Hero checks.

      Flop (300) Ac Qh Ah
      SB checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

      Turn (300) Td
      SB checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

      River (300) 5h
      SB checks, Hero checks, Button checks

      Button shows Kc 2h
      SB shows 8d Kh
      Hero shows 8h Ts
      Hmm, should I have tried to bluff at some point?
      Nope, but you could have made a value bet after the ten hit on the turn, they would have folded and not get a chance to draw to better their hand or they had to pay you a little more after the showdown.

      Now you leave them the pot if one of them takes a stab at the pot on the river you would be in no shape to call it and they would have taken the pot.


      Hand 6: 100/200
      Button (2300)
      SB Hero (6840)
      BB (2805)
      UTG (3055)

      Preflop: Hero is in the SB with Js Qc
      2 folds, Hero raises to 6840, 1 fold
      If you can lose more then 13 BB DON'T PUSH (bb has 14 blinds) going all in with QJo is only getting called by a better hand so you risk all to gain nothing. A much smaller raise would have had the same result, if you get re-raised you can always decide to go all-in after that if you still think you have the better hand.


      Hand 7: 100/200
      Button (3055)
      SB (2100)
      BB Hero (7040)
      UTG (2805)

      Preflop: Hero is in the BB with 9s Jh
      1 fold, Button calls 200, 1 fold, Hero checks.

      Flop (500) Ac Kh Th
      Hero bets 400, Button calls 400.

      Turn (1300) Kc
      Hero bets 800, 1 fold
      Mixed feelings about this one, if he was slowplaying an A, K, Tor PocketPair you are giving chips away. This time you won but I would have checked after the flop and if Button raised just folded (there will be other pots and you have enough to wait for the goods).
      If your opponent was paying attention to the game he knows that you play strong aces and kings agressivly raising pre-flop and if you would have had a weak ace or king he could have represented a stronger one, from the hands i've see so far I would have re-raised you on the flop and would you have called that?


      Hand 8: 100/200
      Button (2600)
      SB Hero (7040)
      BB (3105)
      UTG (2255)

      Preflop: Hero is in the SB with Jd Kc
      UTG calls 200, 1 fold, Hero raises to 7040, 2 folds
      KJ isn't that strong, really want to risk 1/3h of your stack on stealing 4 BB? Just raise it up and see how much he liked his cards first.

      [quote]
      Hand 9: 150/300
      Button (2150)
      SB Hero (7590)
      BB (2755)
      UTG (2505)

      Preflop: Hero is in the SB with Kd 9h
      2 folds, Hero raises to 900, 1 fold
      [quote]

      This is what i meant think you could have done this move with the KJo in the previous hand too.


      Hand 10: 150/300
      Button Hero (8340)
      SB (2905)
      BB (2055)
      UTG (1700)

      Preflop: Hero is on the Button with As 2c
      1 fold, Hero raises to 900, 1 fold, BB calls 600.

      Flop (1950) 8h 8c Tc
      BB checks, Hero bets 1950, BB moves all-in for 1155.

      Turn (5055) 7d

      River (5055) Qd
      You haven't posted the result but I'm guessing BB was very grateful to you for doubling up. A2o is a really weak hand, even if the A comes on the flop, you have no kicker. You need 2 A's 2 Dueces or A2 to get a proper hand chances of that on the flop are about 2.4 percent so you should just muck it. If you really want to steal the blinds give up after the flop.

      Bluffing is the best way to lose huge pots, you should know how to make them and how to give up on them before you use them.


      Hand 11: 150/300
      Button Hero (6285)
      SB (2905)
      BB (4110)
      UTG (1700)

      Preflop: Hero is on the Button with 8s Ks
      1 fold, Hero raises to 900, 2 folds
      Thats not even a hand worth calling with, but you have to realise you can't steal every blind!!!!!

      I'm not trying to be negative but i would have a great day if all the chipleaders played this. If i was BB and had a hand here like maybe KK i would flat call you knowing you would bet big if the flop doesn't hit you and although your the chipleader, BB can do real damage to your stack.


      Hand 12: 150/300
      Button (6865)
      SB (1400)
      BB Hero (6735)

      Preflop: Hero is in the BB with Ad 2h
      1 fold, SB raises to 1400, Hero calls 1100.
      Where's the follow up? ow well I'll guess okay?

      flop: Unknown

      Turn: unknown

      River: unknown

      SB doubles up or Hero get's shit lucky somewhere in this hand.

      This hand I would have folded. An ace is NO INSTANT CALL you have to asume he has at least a better kicker like A8 or a pocket pair or suited connecters which in almost every case gives him between a coinflip or better winning chance pre-flop.

      But he is also shortstacked and in the money so maybe he makes a loose agressive bet to pick up the blinds or hoping to double up with luck. So I can't really say it's a terrible call but I would rather play it a little tighter here, let the other player with the big stack take care of it in the next hand or wait for better cards.

      This is the stage the most players just start to read other players so a few folds can make your image look tight (in case you haven't played to loose before this) and gives you the chance to take the blinds you loose back with random hands. Or let this one go and raise on the other hands giving them the decision and if they call or raise and win you lose less chips.


      Hand 13: 150/300
      Button (7015)
      BB Hero (7985)

      Preflop: Hero is in the BB with Jd 5d
      Button calls 150, Hero raises to 600, Button raises to 900, Hero calls 300.

      Flop (1950) Ks Kd 8h
      Hero bets 900, Button calls 900.

      Turn (3750) Qc
      Hero bets 6185, Button moves all-in for 5215.

      River (15150) 6s
      LOOK AT THE BOARD AND YOUR OPPONENT...
      He re-raises you preflop: so he has something. or doesn't believe you have something. You miss the flop you bet, okay I can live with that. He CALLS so he isn't affraid, he has a hand a good high card ace with kicker or he has the king a pocket pair an 8. The chances he has a hand are greater then the chances he doesn't, if he was bluffing he would have raised you on the flop 90% of the times. So on the turn you should just check/fold and not go all in with a J highcard

      You really should look in the top of this page click on strategic and re-read it again and again and again make it your own, understand it, ask questions.

      But most of all you should learn how to make a proper bluff and how to give up a bluff. And a proper bluff on micro/lower levels usually is: NO BLUFF :)

      A bluff isn't smacking your chips in the pot, a bluff has to be properly set up from before the flop, it's like telling a story, you can't start with a detective story and smack a comedy ending on it in the final chapter and expect people to like it. You have to plan it out, the begining and the end must be connected. And most micro/low limit players (about 95%) you cannot bluff out of a pot they don't even know what their own hand is so how can you expect them to pay enough attention to know what yours is or what you want to believe that it is.

      Not all players can be bluffed succesfully so you should have a read on an opponent first.

      The times you do "bluff" someone out of the hand usually means they have even bigger thrash cards then you do so it has very little extra value to big bet bluff.

      Hope I made any sense and that you have some use for my comments. And maybe I sound harsh sometimes but it's not that you play bad but you have some rough edges that you need to smooth out so you lose less when the cards don't give you any help.

      Good luck at the tables and on improving your play.
    • Maniatrix
      Maniatrix
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.11.2008 Posts: 674
      Thanks alot for taking your time with commenting this. I do realize I make some bad bluff moves at times and overvaluate certain hands like KQ, KJ, QJ, basically any two face cards.


      Nope, but you could have made a value bet after the ten hit on the turn, they would have folded and not get a chance to draw to better their hand or they had to pay you a little more after the showdown.

      Now you leave them the pot if one of them takes a stab at the pot on the river you would be in no shape to call it and they would have taken the pot.
      Due to my constant paranoia of getting bluffed I would probably call that river if someone bet. That is probably something I need to work about, the psychology aspect of it, self discipline.


      You haven't posted the result but I'm guessing BB was very grateful to you for doubling up. A2o is a really weak hand, even if the A comes on the flop, you have no kicker. You need 2 A's 2 Dueces or A2 to get a proper hand chances of that on the flop are about 2.4 percent so you should just muck it. If you really want to steal the blinds give up after the flop.

      Bluffing is the best way to lose huge pots, you should know how to make them and how to give up on them before you use them.
      BB had a flushdraw so I luckily won with ace high. I do see it may have been a bad move though, I just had a hunch he would fold if I bet big.


      Where's the follow up? ow well I'll guess okay?

      flop: Unknown

      Turn: unknown

      River: unknown

      SB doubles up or Hero get's shit lucky somewhere in this hand.
      I sucked out against his jacks and hit my ace on the river, so the call was most likely bad... I have a tendency of treating every ace as the nuts when the blinds get high.


      Thanks again for the comments, I shall try to make improvements on these areas. I guess it is all about the discipline.
    • Sai7
      Sai7
      Bronze
      Joined: 19.02.2008 Posts: 135
      If you want someone to help you evaluate your hands, you should post it in the sample hands sng/mtt section, as it's more likely to get responses over there. Also, the coaches will have a look in that section.
    • Freaky304
      Freaky304
      Bronze
      Joined: 12.04.2008 Posts: 63
      Your welcome maybe someday (hopefully soon) you'll be a bit more experienced and then you can help me :D :D :D

      and about the aces when the blinds get high, thats not even such a bad thought with only a few players and high blinds aces are very good, although you should try to big bet or push on your own terms if you call you can get them once or twice but then they'll raise or push with a stronger hand and your lost. so play tighter if someone else raised then if you are the first to do so.

      Self discipline is very important in poker and very hard to master but think like this, Jamy Gold is the only bluffer who wins the rest actually can play poker :D

      And like Sai said in the sample hand section you get more help and from players with way more experience then me :)

      Good luck at the tables
    • viewer88
      viewer88
      Bronze
      Joined: 19.04.2008 Posts: 5,545
      enable "use images for suits"