[NL2-NL10] Cbet with 77 on flop

    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,696
      0.05/0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.65 by http://www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BB with 7, 7 (Comment)
      3 folds, BU calls $0.10, SB folds, Hero raises to $0.50, BU calls $0.40.

      Flop: ($1.05) 8, A, 9 (2 players) (Comment)
      Hero bets $1.50 (All-In), BU calls $1.50.

      Turn: ($4.05) 2 (Comment)
      River: ($4.05) 6 (2 players) (Comment)


      Final Pot: $4.05

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows a pair of sevens (7h 7d)
      BU shows a flush, ace high (3s Ts)

      BU wins with a flush, ace high (3s Ts)


      Very often I find myself stuck with marginal situations. According to SSS we only push when we bet more than half our entire stack. I assume we should be a little flexible with this rule so I tend to push anything between 40-60%

      Assuming we missed the flop and intend to Cbet against one opponent, we have two choices: 1) bet 2/3 2) push

      Right now after some thinking, I came to the conclusion that I should push at a lower range (betsize 40-45% of stack) if its a non-drawy board to achieve maximum fold equity and I should push at a higher range (betsize 55-60% of stack) if its a drawy board since the likelihood of me being beaten is greater. Many times I found myself pushing on a drawy board only to find myself beaten by a flush.

      Is this a correct way of playing such hands? Should I have bet 70cents only instead of bet $1.50? thanks
  • 7 replies
    • burek2000
      burek2000
      Bronze
      Joined: 16.11.2007 Posts: 3,105
      When I sit in the blinds meaning I will be out of position on the flop I make a choice as follows...

      a) I push all-in preflop (I play this way with 2-3+ limpers, depends on the size of my stack)

      b) I make a regular raise and c-bet 2/3 of the pot on the flop and give up the hand if I don't have a made hand and face any action by opponents.

      There is no point in making ordinary raise if you plan to push any flop, so it's better to push preflop or go for a raise and normal c-bet.

      As played it's ok, you make a lot of FE by pushing, but villains often hold an A in their calling range, so you will also be beat a lot in situations like this one, so I would just bet 0.7$ on the flop and c/f on.
    • exorcism
      exorcism
      Bronze
      Joined: 12.05.2008 Posts: 159
      i agree with burek

      you shouldn't cbet all in in this situation. 0.7 would be enough
    • DaPhunk
      DaPhunk
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.03.2008 Posts: 2,805
      I raise to $0.60 for being OOP preflop and push any flop.
    • Gerv
      Gerv
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      Could you please re-convert this hand as I cannot see the suits and stuff.

      You found your way to conver Elephant hands correctly as I saw before so please could you do this as well :) ?

      Thanks!
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,696
      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $2.00
      BU:
      $6.85

      0.05/0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.65 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BB with 7:heart: , 7:diamond:
      3 folds, BU calls $0.10, SB folds, Hero raises to $0.50, BU calls $0.40.

      Flop: ($1.05) 8:spade: , A:spade: , 9:spade: (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.50 (All-In), BU calls $1.50.

      Turn: ($4.05) 2:club:
      River: ($4.05) 6:spade: (2 players)


      Final Pot: $4.05

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows a pair of sevens (7h 7d)
      BU shows a flush, ace high (3s Ts)

      BU wins with a flush, ace high (3s Ts)
    • Gerv
      Gerv
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      Hello mbml,

      In rare occassions like these I tend to play CBet/Fold

      Only an Ace hand or any hand will call you therefore I like to bet $0.7 and fold to a Reraise

      I hope you get what I mean :)
      best regards,

      Gerv
    • davidangel
      davidangel
      Bronze
      Joined: 03.09.2008 Posts: 456
      Originally posted by DaPhunk
      I raise to $0.60 for being OOP preflop and push any flop.
      We have the same playbook. Thats how I play this hand, quick and dirty.