[NL2-NL10] AA and KK cracked.. bad play or just plain unlucky???

    • bordzter
      bordzter
      Bronze
      Joined: 03.08.2008 Posts: 143
      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $10.23
      BU:
      $22.64

      0.1/0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.65 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A:club: , A:diamond:
      UTG folds, UTG1 calls $0.25, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.50, CO folds, BU calls $0.50, 2 folds, UTG1 calls $0.25.

      Flop: ($1.85) J:heart: , 8:heart: , Q:diamond: (3 players)
      UTG1 checks, Hero bets $0.88, BU calls $0.88, UTG1 folds.

      Turn: ($3.61) 7:spade: (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.71, BU calls $1.71.

      River: ($7.03) J:club: (2 players)
      Hero bets $3.34, BU calls $3.34.

      Final Pot: $13.71

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      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      MP2:
      $17.24
      Hero:
      $12.78

      0.1/0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.65 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A:club: , A:heart:
      4 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, Hero raises to $0.75, 4 folds, MP2 calls $0.50.

      Flop: ($1.85) T:spade: , 4:spade: , 9:spade: (2 players)
      MP2 checks, Hero bets $0.88, MP2 calls $0.88.

      Turn: ($3.61) 3:heart: (2 players)
      MP2 checks, Hero bets $1.71, MP2 calls $1.71.

      River: ($7.03) 4:heart: (2 players)
      MP2 bets $2.00, Hero raises to $4.00, MP2 raises to $13.90 (All-In), Hero calls $5.44 (All-In).

      Final Pot: $30.37

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows two pairs, aces and fours (Ac Ah)
      MP2 shows a full-house, tens full of fours (Th Tc)

      MP2 wins with a full-house, tens full of fours (Th Tc)


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      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      SB:
      $9.37
      MP2:
      $9.34

      0.05/0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.65 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is UTG1 with K:diamond: , K:spade:
      Hero raises to $0.40, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.40, 3 folds, SB calls $0.35, BB folds.

      Flop: ($1.30) T:diamond: , J:diamond: , A:diamond: (3 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $1.24, MP2 raises to $2.48, SB folds, Hero calls $2.41 (All-In), MP2 calls $1.17.

      Turn: ($8.60) 8:heart:
      River: ($8.60) 9:club: (2 players)


      Final Pot: $8.60

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      As promised, I have re-posted the hand using elephant tracker and included the KK hand which made me tilt for a while....

      and also, removed the results as advised....
  • 8 replies
    • bordzter
      bordzter
      Bronze
      Joined: 03.08.2008 Posts: 143
      Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (10 handed) - Party-Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com



      MP2 ($17.24)

      CO ($27.45)

      Button ($4.99)

      SB ($59.57)

      UTG ($22.99)

      UTG+1 ($33.03)

      UTG+2 ($28.84)

      MP3 ($12.78)

      MP1 ($4.38)

      BB ($55.72)



      Preflop:

      4 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, MP3 raises $0.75, 4 folds, MP2 calls $0.50



      Flop: ($1.85) 10, 4, 9 (2 players)

      MP2 checks, MP3 bets $0.88, MP2 calls $0.88



      Turn: ($3.61) 3 (2 players)

      MP2 checks, MP3 bets $1.71, MP2 calls $1.71



      River: ($7.03) 4 (2 players)

      MP2 bets $2, MP3 raises $4, MP2 raises to $13.90 (All-In), MP3 calls $5.44 (All-In)



      Total pot: $25.91



      Results in white below:

      MP2 had 10, 10 (full house, tens over fours).

      MP3 had A, A (two pair, Aces and fours).

      Outcome: MP2 won $29.08
    • IngolPoker
      IngolPoker
      Black
      Joined: 05.09.2006 Posts: 10,470
      Can you please use a proper converter? For example from the pokerstrategy elephant
    • bordzter
      bordzter
      Bronze
      Joined: 03.08.2008 Posts: 143
      just installed elephant. will post succeeding hands through it.
    • exorcism
      exorcism
      Bronze
      Joined: 12.05.2008 Posts: 159
      1st hand -


      raise more preflop... with that minraise you are inviting a lot of people in the pot and AA doesn't play well against too many oponents. raise to 1.25 preflop

      on the flop bet more - 2/3 potsize to potsize to protect against a flush and straight draw and build a pot. Your goal is to move all in as soon as possible


      2nd Hand -


      again raise more preflop!!! 4BB+1BB per limper

      bet a lot more on the flop to protect from a flushdraw, you can go broke with an overpair.

      3rd hand- nh

      good raise preflop (finally :) )

      you flopped a straight, nut flush and a royal flush draw, plus a pair - definetly worth getting your money in the middle with this monster.

      hope this helps!
    • matt1234
      matt1234
      Bronze
      Joined: 06.05.2008 Posts: 99
      Agree with most of what exo says - protection against strong draws should be more of a potsized bet however, 2/3 pot is a normal c-bet. As played both AA hands are very difficult to play, if not impossible.
    • excelgeo
      excelgeo
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.10.2008 Posts: 1,107
      if you see an A on the flop and people keep calling your raises you should be sure that your KK are done...

      the AA are bad raises preflop
    • bordzter
      bordzter
      Bronze
      Joined: 03.08.2008 Posts: 143
      thanks for the comment guys. it really helped.

      been having trouble playing AA and KK of late....
    • Gerv
      Gerv
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      Hello bordzter,


      Hand #1 of OP
      Preflop: Raise to $1.25 (4+1bb) even though you have a doubled stack, come on you have Aces =) !

      Flop+Turn+River: Continuation Bet harder to 2/3 potsized! Betting with 1/2 potsized as a continuation bet is bad and -EV


      Hand #2 of OP

      Same story, bet more pre-post-turn&river!

      Hand #3 of OP

      This one is well played :)


      Best regards,
      Gerv