[NL2-NL10] nl25 JJ

    • excelgeo
      excelgeo
      Silver
      Joined: 17.10.2008 Posts: 1,107
      Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      saw flop | saw showdown

      Hero (UTG+1) ($8.45)
      MP1 ($19.35)
      MP2 ($25)
      MP3 ($40.30)
      CO ($5.45)
      Button ($25.15)
      SB ($30.70)
      BB ($17.25)
      UTG ($5)

      Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J:heart: , J:club:
      1 fold, Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, MP2 raises to $3, 5 folds, Hero calls $2

      Flop: ($6.35) 10:spade: , Q:club: , 7:spade: (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP2 bets $4, Hero folds

      Total pot: $6.35 | Rake: $0.30


      MP2 didn't show
      Outcome: MP2 won $6.05


      the guy was pretty loose up to that point but he overbet me preflop, what should i have done?

      he said he had 96o but i think he was trying to put me on tilt (successfully)
  • 5 replies
    • burek2000
      burek2000
      Bronze
      Joined: 16.11.2007 Posts: 3,105
      I don't know how you have time to chat with all the tables open with SSS. ;)

      1) You shouldn't be at a table with so big stack. If you were waiting to get blinded out then it's ok.

      2) I usually raise JJ when I double up as well, so... If you are 100% sure he is very loose player, maniac in other words, then you have an easy shove preflop. Although I would recommend that, I make an easy fold without decent stats or reads on the opponent, therefore I also use 3-bet stats when I play. OR if you are not 100% sure he's a very loose-aggressive player, then you have an easy fold to a 3-bet with such a big stack.
    • excelgeo
      excelgeo
      Silver
      Joined: 17.10.2008 Posts: 1,107
      lol

      i thought i should have shoved too

      good advice

      how do you know what it is i am doing?
    • burek2000
      burek2000
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      Joined: 16.11.2007 Posts: 3,105
      Originally posted by excelgeo
      how do you know what it is i am doing?
      I'm Big Brother and I'm watching you! :D
    • Fongie
      Fongie
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.12.2006 Posts: 4,978
      Calling sucks because you'll have to fold when he bets on the flop. You need to decide preflop wheither to shove or fold.. usually I don't shove JJ with a big stack, but then again I usually don't have a read :)
    • Gerv
      Gerv
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      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      Originally posted by Fongie
      Calling sucks because you'll have to fold when he bets on the flop. You need to decide preflop wheither to shove or fold.. usually I don't shove JJ with a big stack, but then again I usually don't have a read :)
      I agree with this,

      You are postflop OOP with just Jacks with a significant stack but still not doubled up in my opinion.

      If you call here, you put yourself in a dangerous position due the fact that you didnt get any information of what kind of holdings he had + you are not in position.

      so I suggest either Reraising him preflop or Fold.
      Folding here with such a read as yours (Maniac etc.) is not very cool so I just shove it here and hope that I will have a 60bb stack :}}

      Best regards,

      Gerv