[NL20-NL50] nl50 FR 66 good bluff?

    • Paf4488
      Paf4488
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      Joined: 24.11.2007 Posts: 182
      Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 7 players
      The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

      CO: $48.00
      Hero (BTN): $51.00
      SB: $50.25
      BB: $49.25
      UTG: $27.10
      UTG+1: $50.00
      MP: $64.35

      Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with 6 :spade: 6 :diamond:
      3 folds, CO raises to $2, Hero calls $2, SB raises to $8, 1 fold, CO calls $6, Hero calls $6

      Flop: ($24.50) 3 :heart: 7 :spade: A :diamond: (3 players)
      SB bets $13, CO folds, Hero raises to $43 all in, SB folds

      Sb is 12/9/4/22 3bet is 5 %
      Is this a good place to bluff, i dont think he can call with KK or lower pocket, only aces and AK call ? Even AK might fold because the board is so dry.
      And one more question, is preflop call ok?
  • 8 replies
    • Michailewic
      Michailewic
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      Joined: 28.04.2008 Posts: 1,418
      You must realize that SB bet into 3 way pot which means that he usually may have Ace. It is a 3-bet pot, therefore it is likely that you would be called with AK or sometimes with AQ. I think that you shove is -EV.
    • nttflox
      nttflox
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      Joined: 25.10.2007 Posts: 673
      SB will never fold here an ace that he 3-betted. Otherwise why 3-bet it?
      Preflop call is ok.
    • cindy1985
      cindy1985
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      Joined: 13.11.2007 Posts: 358
      If you were heads up you could try to bluff him out of the pot. But why do you risk your entire stack? A minraise (or slightly more) probably give you the same fold equity against KK-QQ.

      In this multiway pot, unless you have a read saying this guy CB 100% of the pots, you should give it up.
    • Desperadooo
      Desperadooo
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      Joined: 06.09.2007 Posts: 23
      i would reraise his stealhand ; but then playing checkfold
    • Paf4488
      Paf4488
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      Joined: 24.11.2007 Posts: 182
      Originally posted by cindy1985
      If you were heads up you could try to bluff him out of the pot. But why do you risk your entire stack? A minraise (or slightly more) probably give you the same fold equity against KK-QQ.

      In this multiway pot, unless you have a read saying this guy CB 100% of the pots, you should give it up.
      I checked it up and he cbets 89% out of 28 hands in normal pots and his cbet in 3betted pots 100 % (3 out of 3). Knowing this information would you now make a move like this?
    • Michailewic
      Michailewic
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      The fact that he c-bets 100% of his hands may indicate that he only 3-bets strong hand which are also strong on the flop with which it is +EV to c-bet also in 3-way pot. And from three 3-bet pots played by him, you cannot really rely on the fact he would always c-bet.

      Still it is fold to me.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      He would 3-bet with AQ+, TT+ and some random hands.
      Not sure if I love or hate the shove. But it probably causes a lot of variance.
      I would start out 3-bet pf or if called then fold to 3-bet.
    • cindy1985
      cindy1985
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      Joined: 13.11.2007 Posts: 358
      Originally posted by Paf4488
      Originally posted by cindy1985
      If you were heads up you could try to bluff him out of the pot. But why do you risk your entire stack? A minraise (or slightly more) probably give you the same fold equity against KK-QQ.

      In this multiway pot, unless you have a read saying this guy CB 100% of the pots, you should give it up.
      I checked it up and he cbets 89% out of 28 hands in normal pots and his cbet in 3betted pots 100 % (3 out of 3). Knowing this information would you now make a move like this?
      If I've noticed he liked to steal, I would certainly try a move, just to make him understand he will face tough spot if he wants to steal often. But again, don't risk your entire stack, it is not increasing your fold equity.

      Also to be noticed: if he is a thinking player, there is a risk he puts you on pocket pair given the preflop action, and he might call you with a weak ace or a better PP... so I would rather try this type of move if I open raised PF and he tried to resteal... not sure if I'm clear.