[NL20-NL50] NL25 AKo .

    • Talic
      Talic
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      Joined: 04.01.2008 Posts: 1,851
      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $25,15
      BB:
      $20,71
      MP3:
      $27,85
      CO:
      $25,77
      BU:
      $8,63

      0,1/0,25 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.60 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is SB with A:heart: , K:club:
      MP3 raises to $1,00, CO calls $1,00, BU folds, Hero raises to $4,50, 2 folds, CO calls $3,50.

      Flop: ($10,25) 6:diamond: , 7:heart: , 7:club: (2 players)
      Hero bets $7,30, CO raises to $21,27 (All-In), Hero raises to $20,65 (All-In).

      Turn: ($52,17) 4:heart:
      River: ($52,17) 6:heart:


      Final Pot: $52,17

      its 14$ to win 52$ total

      And sometimes I'm even ahead (which I was, he had 8d9d), I decided to call by the way how quickly he shoves
  • 8 replies
    • Michailewic
      Michailewic
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      Joined: 28.04.2008 Posts: 1,418
      It is not $14 to get $52 but $14 to get $38,82 (minus rake). You must assume that he has at least pocket pair. And in this case you do not have odds to call. Call here is very bad.
    • spit22
      spit22
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      Joined: 03.11.2008 Posts: 309
      Originally posted by Michailewic
      It is not $14 to get $52 but $14 to get $38,82 (minus rake). You must assume that he has at least pocket pair. And in this case you do not have odds to call. Call here is very bad.
      what he said x2
    • mariop21
      mariop21
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      Joined: 30.10.2008 Posts: 5
      you arent even ahead against 89s
    • Talic
      Talic
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      If he has lets say 88, (I knew I did have 6 live outs) than it is 24:75.
      Odd to call are, I have to be ahead in 27% of cases (- rake), you have to assume that he can have a draw.

      Actually this could be a good question, how far can I go with my reads against odds?
    • Michailewic
      Michailewic
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      Originally posted by Talic
      If he has lets say 88, (I knew I did have 6 live outs) than it is 24:75.
      Odd to call are, I have to be ahead in 27% of cases (- rake), you have to assume that he can have a draw.

      Actually this could be a good question, how far can I go with my reads against odds?
      Draw on this board is very unlikely (even if this happen in this case). And if you want to include straight draw, you must also include trips.

      If you want to include some draws to your calculation, I would start with flush draw if the flop had two cards of the same suit. Even against flush draw, you are not favourite.

      If he had 88, your odds would be 1:3 (minus reverse odds if the board hit 7 or 8) while pot odds are only 1:2,7. No way to call.


      AK is good hand preflop but it is a trash if you miss the flop.
    • Talic
      Talic
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      I watched him playing and I targeted him.

      Sorry guys, I just had the extra-sensory feeling that he's for sure on a draw :D
    • Michailewic
      Michailewic
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      You are not even ahead against OESD (if both his pocket cards are not suited). And since this is the worst hand he might shove, then your call is absolutely bad (so at the best case scenario you are 1:1).

      And it is always better to shove than call a shove (e.g. with a draw)
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      If you´re not folding to his shove then you can probably c/rai than b/c. If you b/c, then probably only hand that you´re ahead is 89 and maybe some gutshots. But he could also have some pp and you don´t get the right odds to b/c.