[NL2-NL10] NL10 flush draw + inside str8 draw on turn in freeplay

    • YerzY
      YerzY
      Bronze
      Joined: 09.10.2008 Posts: 35
      SB:
      $13,15
      Hero:
      $1,85
      MP1:
      $15,45
      MP2:
      $3,90
      MP3:
      $3,75
      CO:
      $12,40
      BU:
      $8,10

      0,05/0,1 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.65 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BB with 7:diamond: , 5:diamond:
      4 folds, CO calls $0,10, BU calls $0,10, SB calls $0,05, Hero checks.

      Flop: ($0,40) K:heart: , 6:diamond: , 9:club: (4 players)
      SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks, BU checks.

      Turn: ($0,40) T:diamond: (4 players)
      SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks, BU bets $0,30, SB calls $0,30, Hero folds, CO calls $0,30.

      In basic strategy is written to fold, but i got 12 outs on turn + implied odds.
      Problem is that someone can have str8 in this point or higher flush draw.
      So i wanna ask.
      Where is the border line to call/push in similar situation?

      sorry for my grammar.
  • 6 replies
    • IngolPoker
      IngolPoker
      Black
      Joined: 05.09.2006 Posts: 10,467
      play draws passively in freeplays, checkcall according to odds&outs!

      You get 3,33:1 pot odds and the odds of improving your hand are roughly 3:1

      So a call is fine
    • YerzY
      YerzY
      Bronze
      Joined: 09.10.2008 Posts: 35
      Ok thanks.
      So u mean if comes a flush on the river or the 8 to my inside i have to push it. I can not be scared of J7 or JQ or a higher flush?
    • IngolPoker
      IngolPoker
      Black
      Joined: 05.09.2006 Posts: 10,467
      Originally posted by YerzY
      Ok thanks.
      So u mean if comes a flush on the river or the 8 to my inside i have to push it. I can not be scared of J7 or JQ or a higher flush?
      correct

      drawing to a flush and then checkfolding when you hit it wouldnt make that much sense ;)
    • YerzY
      YerzY
      Bronze
      Joined: 09.10.2008 Posts: 35
      I' m so sorry that i am asking again on this hand, but i'm still not sure about it.

      I don't want to injure IngolPoker, but I think that this hand is not so trivial as he answered me (maybe it is).

      I will be glad if some other judge take a look at this hand.
    • burek2000
      burek2000
      Bronze
      Joined: 16.11.2007 Posts: 3,105
      I believe your question is whether you should be affraid of better straight/flush in case you hit...

      Sometimes you can be affraid, but that mostly depends on the board...

      In your particular case the board doesn't look too dangerous and you should be ahead most of the time in case you hit your straight/flush and what's even more important is the fact that there are a lot of worse possible hands that will call you, like top pair, 2 pair, trips...

      Of course seldomly you will see a better flush/straight, but on NL10 you shouldn't fold so strong made hands unless board is very dangerous, because you will get paid with worse hands more often that you will lose with them.
    • YerzY
      YerzY
      Bronze
      Joined: 09.10.2008 Posts: 35
      Thank u burek2000.
      This was exactly what i needed to read. :)