Incorrigible poker ninja Gonchan enjoy SnG again!

    • Gonchan
      Gonchan
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      Joined: 14.06.2011 Posts: 2,867
      Hi,

      Nice to meet you or I'm glad to see you again guys(for who remember me lol).

      I backed to poker recently(around 2 month ago), and I switched my playing game from cash game to SnG.(my cash game result recently was bad..)

      Here is my graph for my first 2k games



      Infinite red line increase!

      I'm following SnG wiz's play basically and some learning material so my edge can be extend if I can play more perfectly.

      However, I still want to talk some guys about SnG to improve my game and my entertainment from poker.

      Now I'm not full-time poker player and I have some work, but still I can show you I can enjoy poker.

      I'm broadcasting my grind here Poker ninja Gonchan at twitch

      Let's talk and enjoy,

      Gonchan
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    • SDK1987
      SDK1987
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      Nice graph. It’s pretty funny that you’re making a decent amount of profit and that the +EV line is a lot higher. Hopefully you will run in the next 2k games even better.

      Good luck with your new blog :gl:

      Cheers,
      SDK1987
    • Gonchan
      Gonchan
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      Hi,

      I don't know how reliable $ev is in HT SnG but can I say I can win money like red line later? :f_tongue:

      and I also hope next 2k games is better about my ability and actual result!

      Today's memo

      Pacific, $2.80 Buy-in (30/60 blinds, 5 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 4 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      SB: 982 (16.4 bb)
      BB: 1,195 (19.9 bb)
      CO: 378 (6.3 bb)
      Hero (BTN): 445 (7.4 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with 6 A
      3 folds

      Results:
      80 pot
      BB mucked and won 80 (45 net)


      In this 4 way spot, I don't have to tighten up my shove range, I thought bubble factor started to work but even I bust here, CO won't get additional $ still, it is different from 3way.

      Moreover, when I don't take risk here, CO and BTN gonna bust basically.

      I have to make my bubble play or near-bubble play more solid..

      See you tomorrow.
    • SDK1987
      SDK1987
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      Interesting spot on the bubble I think. I would consider to push here, but on the bubble a fold is most likely better indeed. I expect you’re $EV line would be a indication on long run how much money you will win, but variance is off course enormous in those games.
    • Gonchan
      Gonchan
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      Today's memo

      Pacific, $4.70 Buy-in (30/60 blinds, 5 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 4 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      SB: 660 (11 bb)
      BB: 600 (10 bb)
      CO: 1,275 (21.3 bb)
      Hero (BTN): 465 (7.8 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with 9 8
      2 folds, SB completes, BB raises to 595 and is all-in, SB folds

      Results:
      140 pot
      BB mucked and won 140 (75 net)


      Here is I can shove 90%.

      I scared bust but it isn't so bad even bust here

      I remember 1 big stack and 3 short stack spot, and unless I'm facing against big stack, I can shove very widely.

      Pacific, $4.70 Buy-in (50/100 blinds, 10 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 3 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      SB: 1,320 (13.2 bb)
      BB: 1,000 (10 bb)
      Hero (BTN): 680 (6.8 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with J K
      Hero raises to 670 and is all-in, 2 folds

      Results:
      280 pot
      Hero mucked J K and won 280 (170 net)


      I thought KJs is marginal but I could shove here with KTo even.
      My assumption was bit too tight.

      Pacific, $4.70 Buy-in (50/100 blinds, 10 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 4 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      SB: 290 (2.9 bb)
      BB: 545 (5.5 bb)
      CO: 1,105 (11.1 bb)
      Hero (BTN): 1,060 (10.6 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with K A
      CO raises to 1,095 and is all-in, Hero calls 1,050 and is all-in, 2 folds

      Flop: (2,290) 3 7 5 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
      Turn: (2,290) 2 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
      River: (2,290) T (2 players, 2 are all-in)

      Results:
      2,290 pot
      Final Board: 3 7 5 2 T
      CO showed 7 7 and won 2,290 (1,230 net)
      Hero showed K A and lost (-1,060 net)


      I thought AKs was premium but I often have to coin-flip even against many pp so SnGwiz suggest my call should be JJ+ only.

      My $ ev is reaching to 3000$, I hope my green line can follow also lol
    • Gonchan
      Gonchan
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      Today I made so many mistake like these,

      https://www.weaktight.com/h/566972eed39043050e8b475a

      KTo call against strong range, even my ES is 5 and I posted 1bb, I shouldn't call like this..

      https://www.weaktight.com/h/56697396d39043560b8b47ba

      A7o too tight fold, ES is 4.5 BTN's range was much looser than KTo last time.


      Especially in first hand, my ev diff is terrible..

      For improve this spot, there is someway.

      1 practice at SnG wiz quiz, but I'm not used to filtering quiz, so making good quiz is bit difficult.

      2 watching video, especially explaining calling range 5bb around, do you know some good video?

      3 try other tools, I heard something about ICMizer, that quiz is better? Although I don't want to invest to additional tool..

      Hmm, this month's aim is rainforcing my calling range, I gonna decrease my mistakes around calling range to 20% compared to recent mistake.

      See you later!
      Gonchan
    • Gonchan
      Gonchan
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      https://www.weaktight.com/h/567009fad3904368678b456b

      A8o

      https://www.weaktight.com/h/56700a58d3904368678b4597

      86o(100% here!)

      These 2 hand is careless mistake, I need concentration.

      https://www.weaktight.com/h/56700c9cd390439f0a8b45f7

      A9o, I misread effective stack here, value call.. My assuption for BTN's call here was too tight.

      Hmm, I need more improvement.

      Anyway, today I got periodical event.






      Congrats! My red line is 3000$ above! When can I try to crush 888 server? lol

      Moreover, my HM2 and SnG wiz isn't fixed yet.. I sent my log files so I hope they can find the bug.
      I want to filter calling hand, but I can't use filter while I try to evaluate my hand with SnG wiz, is it terrible, right?

      See you later
      Gonchan
    • Gonchan
      Gonchan
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      Hi,

      I'm bit bored to contact HM2 support, I only request HM2 that I can check my hand perfectly and immediately with accurate stats, is this request excessive?

      Anyway, today's memo

      https://www.weaktight.com/h/56715ef4d39043981c8b4668

      J7o

      Actually, I'm very frustrated by SB, he seemed to be almost 100% shover from SB.
      However, even he is doing 100% shove here( and I think he shove at most 80%), I couldn't call my hand, it was because bubble factor.

      Yesterday, I made some too tight fold but today is too loose call.
      Let's improvement more tomorrow!

      See you later

      Gonchan
    • Gonchan
      Gonchan
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      Hi,

      I got -100$ swing at 1 session yesterday, it was so sad( I wide-shoved as usual then opponent could call 3 times more with premium hands..)

      Anyway, I found interesting promotion in twitter.

      It said that today's PS promo is insanely good, and it was about tournament game.

      Ok, I haven't tried 180 man SnG so I was not confident about this game's ICM but very simple calculation that I only have to play at most 360 games( and it is lowest stake, I didn't think I'm latter side among all player in 1$ game) so I tried.

      Here is my result for finishing this challange


      Maybe I got lucky, but I could achieve my challenge quickly( or not? lol)

      Here is my hand and difference from 6max summary

      1 Shoving range is much looser than 6 max SnG

      https://www.weaktight.com/h/56741c6ad39043c7578b487f

      JTo

      If villain's calling is what SnG wiz assume, I could shove here with 70% hands,
      then even villain call twice than assuming range, I could still shove with JTo

      https://www.weaktight.com/h/56741e47d39043bc5a8b46d5

      K3s

      What range do you think for shove?

      2 There is some spot facing multi shove before my action

      https://www.weaktight.com/h/56741fb9d39043c7578b48ed

      I haven't met 2 guys+ shove before my action at 6 max, I have to know when I can call.

      Here it was odds 100% call !

      https://www.weaktight.com/h/56742094d39043083a8b4810

      4 shove already and I'm 5bb, it is also 100% call! WTF


      Still I have to check more hands but I played so many games so it need additional times, so I may check later.

      PS
      Here is my lottery result.




      Hmm, ok, still juicy, although I found 2 Japanese got 5000$ prize in twitter...

      See you later

      Gonchan
    • tonypmm
      tonypmm
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      Joined: 11.01.2009 Posts: 3,853
      Hi Gonchan, you can cross-post the brag in the special 180-man promo thread. Well done :f_thumbsup: , better luck next time!

      You're right, there are a lot of loose overcall spots when you have less than 6 big blinds because the antes bloat the pot. The initial preflop pot is 3.3 big blinds at a full table, thus the 'effective big blind' is equal to 2.2 times the nominal big blind :f_o:

      The fact that you were playing in the chip EV mode at final tables (if I've understood you right) was even in your favour because finishing in the first place had so much value than other prizes should have been ignored anyway. However, your opponents, especially 180-man regs, might have been playing according to the ICM, so they were giving you extra dead chips because they were playing tight (in order to maximise their regular prize equity, but not the promo bonus equity).

      So you were set to win tourneys more often than once in 180 games, but your real non-promo ROI was likely slightly negative or not very big due to 'ICM mistakes', so you definitely ran hotter than the sun with regard to the prizes of the tourneys themselves.

      All in all, due to the specifics of the promotion (the huge overlay provided by the bonus), my strategy was not to think too deeply about ranges but just to keep loading as many hyper tables as there were in the lobby and flip in the cEV mode :f_biggrin:
    • Gonchan
      Gonchan
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      Hi,

      First of all, welcome to my blog, tonypmm.Nice to meet you!

      I basically played 6max hyper-turbo game so I used ICM, (ICM tax is too low when 180 man game early phase so I gonna use chip-ev here though)

      Yea, and I completely agree with the opinion that I have to care about more when I play 180 man seriously.
      Moreover, I actually thought I'm playing pokeish game, not poker when I played 15 table+ in unfamiliar game lol(It worked:f_biggrin: )

      Anyway, Today's news is very sad..

      I contacted HM2 support so many times and finally they said HM2 has bug around $ev in 888.

      That means that I followed wrong stats($ev was relatively accurate stats to determine my grind is good or bad).

      They said that $ev bug is lower priority, but this bug remains over 1 year,WTF.

      Now 888 has 2nd best traffic, never minor room, also this room has good traffic for SnG.

      My request was I want to see true stats, true evaluation, is it excessive?

      I'm so sad that it is good time to switch another tools, although I never want to invest more even I already bought decent tool(what I thought decent.)

      Ok, my grind has still decent profit, let's improve more.

      PS
      Today still I made tilt move.

      https://www.weaktight.com/h/567553e4d39043886a8b460b

      AQo, I already met such a situation, and with deep breath, I could remember.

      2 left guys is too short, that mean my calling ICM is terrible.(these 2 short stack can get 2nd place prize if I bust.)

      See you later
      Gonchan.
    • tonypmm
      tonypmm
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      Joined: 11.01.2009 Posts: 3,853
      If you're going to play SnGs for long, then I advise you to switch to PT4. HM2 is notorious for miscalculating $EV in many SnG formats of many sites. But the PT4 team usually corrects any mistake in $EV calculation within a few business days of receiving a support ticket from me with relevant hand history files attached.

      This difference is surprising because HM and PT are now owned by the same company, but that's how it is.
    • Gonchan
      Gonchan
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      Hi,

      I finally decided to use other tools(I'm too bored to contact support 100 times..)

      Here is 2 tools which I gonna switch to.

      1 PT4

      I need flawless stats, especially $ev.

      I hope this tools solve some my problems.

      Also, I'm looking forward to light-HUD( HM2 ate my memory so much)

      2 ICMIZER

      I also need immediate evaluation.

      Also, I tried this tools's quiz, it is called SnG coach.
      On it, my score was around top 40%.

      I'm shaming that I thought my play was decent, but 40% is never enough lol

      I gonna broadcast my try-and-error these tools soon.

      See you later

      Gonchan
    • Gonchan
      Gonchan
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      Hi,

      As I wrote yesterday, I'm trying to switch to new tools, PT4 and ICMIZER.

      I'm waiting for withdrawal for payment, but I can use PT4 trial now.

      When I firstly opened PT4, I couldn't activate my HUD.
      After some tuning up, my PT4 started working.

      Here is my test-session's result





      Wow, it was test-session from my view but my result is insane!

      I heard 2x- or 3x- turbo tournament is very juicy so I tried today, but I never thought I can get some result. I'm so happy that I can purchase these tools comfortably!

      However, I'm never confident my play considering my first 2x-turbo game and my score at SnG coach, I'm looking forward to this tool then improve my play to at least actual decent.( I thought my play is decent but SnG coach showed it is wrong directly lol)

      See you later
      Gonchan
    • Gonchan
      Gonchan
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      Hi,

      It's been a while, I finally got my withdrawal and bought ICMIZER.

      then I made some charts from this tool. It makes my SnG coach quiz score much better.



      Anyway, I still have critical question for grind.

      What factor should I focus to see my improvement?
      I've played HT grind for 2 month, then I thought my $ev was decent.

      However, I got feedback that my $ev is wrong because of HM2 bug.
      If so, now my play backed to fog.

      How can I check my true $ev? or is there another factor which I should focus more?

      I'm testing PT4 but I don't know how to show my $ev..

      Any MTT grinder has something for it?

      I'm looking for your feedback.

      Gonchan
    • Gonchan
      Gonchan
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      Hi,

      I was preparing for final exam for driver license last few days.

      Then finally I got driver license today!( It took around 1 month, isn't it quick? :)


      Moreover, now I can go work next January because I could take driver license this month.(Without saying, I'm not eager to go work although..)

      These factor means that I need to adjust the relationship between me and poker from next month.


      I've tried MTT for 1 week, and I noticed something.

      1 A bit harder to calculate my real ev because of higher variance.

      2 Game time also has high variance. When I won 2nd place at 300 man game, it took around 3 hours.

      3 It has much more larger dream, 1 1st prize gave me 1 month profit which I earned from HT lol

      4 I found some tournament which has some edge mechanically. When I join Rebuy & Addon tournament then survive until addon, I already has some edge compared to who retired before it.

      In summary, MTT has some edge but it seems difficult to play on working day.

      So, I'm considering some plans for it.

      1 HT 6 table around as I've played around 2 month, + some juicy MTT, such as add-on or guarantee tournament, it seems most comfortable grind.

      2 HT 12 table+ at lower buyin. I think I had at least 5 ROI( though I noticed my red line was fake.) so if I can continue this ROI, I can get decent profit from multitabling. It also fit the demand for flexible time.

      3 Switching to MTT main. It may have best ROI. However, still I have to overcome some disadvantage as I wrote.

      What plan do you think it is best for guys who can play 2 hours around per day because of work while earning some profit?