opponent check behind filter

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    • VorpalF2F
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      Hi, SPeedFANat1c,
      To do this, you need to pick a street.

      For example, a filter for flop check followed by all villains checking behind (or ahead):
      Logic: If your only action on a street is check, yet you still see the next street, then everyone else checked too.
      So as far as I can tell, you need to do this for 1 street at a time.

      In a hand report, click "More Filters"
      Click "Add Filter"
      Open "Actions and Opportunities"
      Open "Actions and Opportunities - Turn"
      Turn on "Saw Turn", click "Add to Filter" button
      Open "Actions and Opportunities - Flop"
      Turn on "Checked Flop"
      Open "Flop Opportunities"
      Turn on "Open the Pot", click "Add to Filter". Logic: If you have the opportunity to open the betting, and you check, then everyone else the checks is checking behind.
      Click "Add Filter"
      Open "Actions and Opportunities - Flop"

      Open Flop Bets, turn on "Bet Flop" and make sure only "Any Flop Bet" is the only option checked.
      Click "Add to Filter"

      Repeat that for "Flop Raises", "Flop Calls" and "Flop Folds"
      Now you in the main filter window, select each box in turn and click the "Not Selected" button.
      So your filter now should look like this:


      So:
      If you check the flop, and never bet, fold, call or raise, yet still see the turn, then everyone else checked too.
      I don't think it is possible to filter out those cases where someone checked before you, and you are the one checking behind.
      For that you need "facing action" filters, and I think only HM has those.

      Cheers,
      VS
    • Varune
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      Checking behind as PFR(=no cbet) or checking behind as Coldcaller are 2 completely different ranges tho.

      For the latter you could use: 'bet vs missed cbet= false" in HEM2
    • VorpalF2F
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      yes -- that is correct.
      There is a way to filter for in position or not, but as far as I can tell with PT4 the only way to do this is to filter as I described, then check.

      If anyone knows differently, I'd love to hear of it,
      VS
    • SPeedFANat1c
      SPeedFANat1c
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      Originally posted by VorpalF2F
      Hi, SPeedFANat1c,
      To do this, you need to pick a street.

      For example, a filter for flop check followed by all villains checking behind (or ahead):
      Logic: If your only action on a street is check, yet you still see the next street, then everyone else checked too.
      So as far as I can tell, you need to do this for 1 street at a time.

      In a hand report, click "More Filters"
      Click "Add Filter"
      Open "Actions and Opportunities"
      Open "Actions and Opportunities - Turn"
      Turn on "Saw Turn", click "Add to Filter" button
      Open "Actions and Opportunities - Flop"
      Turn on "Checked Flop"
      Open "Flop Opportunities"
      Turn on "Open the Pot", click "Add to Filter". Logic: If you have the opportunity to open the betting, and you check, then everyone else the checks is checking behind.
      Click "Add Filter"
      Open "Actions and Opportunities - Flop"

      Open Flop Bets, turn on "Bet Flop" and make sure only "Any Flop Bet" is the only option checked.
      Click "Add to Filter"

      Repeat that for "Flop Raises", "Flop Calls" and "Flop Folds"
      Now you in the main filter window, select each box in turn and click the "Not Selected" button.
      So your filter now should look like this:


      So:
      If you check the flop, and never bet, fold, call or raise, yet still see the turn, then everyone else checked too.
      I don't think it is possible to filter out those cases where someone checked before you, and you are the one checking behind.
      For that you need "facing action" filters, and I think only HM has those.

      Cheers,
      VS
      thanks, you are awesome :)

      they key probably was that I did not even notice that I can make it negatinve (NOT). All logic now makes sense.

      And I think we do not need to negate FOLD I think, because if we did not call, bet or raise and saw turn, then it means automatically we did not fold.
    • VorpalF2F
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      Originally posted by SPeedFANat1c
      And I think we do not need to negate FOLD I think, because if we did not call, bet or raise and saw turn, then it means automatically we did not fold.
      Yeah -- quite right.
      We don't even need FOLD in the filter.


      VS