BetSize in poker

    • spurgu12
      spurgu12
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      Joined: 29.10.2011 Posts: 1
      Pokerclients have betbuttons example 1/2 3/4 pot, which size I use in which spot ? I have also seen that someone use custom betsize like 52% 73% 95% where do i know when to use which prosent ?
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    • VorpalF2F
      VorpalF2F
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      Hi, spurgu12,
      Welcome to PokerStrategy.com!

      Like so many things in poker, the answer is "It depends" -- and this question is a bit more complicated.

      I suggest absorbing all the fundamentals first (if you haven't already) .

      Even if you have been playing for a while, it doesn't hurt to review the basics.
      I suggest heading to the No Limit Hold'em lessons overview have a look and dive in.

      You will soon run into articles that are for bronze members and above, though, so perhaps the best course is to start with one of the free money offers. Follow the instructions and become a bronze member. As you play, you'll earn points and get silver and higher.

      One of the earliest articles is "Why do you bet?".
      There are two main categories of bet:
      :diamond:   For value. You have a decent hand and you think villain will call with worse.
      :diamond:   Bluff. You have a mediocre hand and you want villain to fold better.

      There is no hard-and-fast line between the two. Even though it might make sense to bet smaller when you want villain to call, or bet bigger if you want villain to fold such a strategy is easily read by opponents, and they'll exploit you mercilessly. Also, if you bet too small with big hands, you give weak hands the correct odds to call, so they will, and you'll lose a portion of those.

      So you either need a variety of bet sizes for each situation, or a single bet size for most common situations.
      If the latter, I suggest around 60% to 2/3 pot. Some will say 1/2 pot, some will suggest higher.

      Other factors that influence bet size are:
      :diamond:   Opponents playing style: nit, LAG, TAG, maniac etc
      :diamond:   Stack size. Playing with a 200 BB stack is different than playing with a 100 BB stack.

      BTW, I wrote this assuming cash games, and now I see you posted this in tournaments. Doh!

      Anyway, the advice about picking up the free money still stands!

      All the best,
      VS
    • benibanaani123
      benibanaani123
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      Joined: 13.02.2011 Posts: 82
      60% 3/4 pot <------so, is this good betsize meter
      Its still mystery, custom betzize 52% 71% pot. How i know which % i use and which spot.
      Thx
    • VorpalF2F
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      Hi, benibanaani123,
      there is not much difference between a 60% bet, and a 75% bet, so anywhere in between does about the same thing.
      Pot-sized bets, and really small bets have quite different effects.

      Knowing your opponents helps a lot.

      I think that people bets of strange amounts to arouse curiosity -- or perhaps to give the impression that they actually thought about it.

      Cheers,
      VS
    • benibanaani123
      benibanaani123
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      Joined: 13.02.2011 Posts: 82
      Okay THX:f_cool:
    • benibanaani123
      benibanaani123
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      I will use 1/2 3/4 pot buttons if its same than custom:f_cool:
    • deephazard
      deephazard
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      Joined: 29.04.2009 Posts: 6
      i have 49 60 75 allin
    • faun26
      faun26
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      60% 3/4 pot <------so, is this good betsize meter
    • ZakYoun270
      ZakYoun270
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      Joined: 10.12.2015 Posts: 40
      very dependent upon the situation and the player. think about what you can accomplish with various sizings in different situations and experiment.
    • axppp
      axppp
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      Joined: 07.07.2009 Posts: 45
      Originally posted by ZakYoun270
      very dependent upon the situation and the player. think about what you can accomplish with various sizings in different situations and experiment.
      i agree with you opinion but i think that's probably a good range to have something like 39 59 85 allin. what you think?
    • VorpalF2F
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      Hi, axppp,
      There used to be the idea that the standard was 1/2 pot, 3/4 pot and pot-sized bets.

      Now I see a lot of smaller bets -- all the way down to 1 BB bets on the river.

      It all comes down to why we bet.
      :diamond:   Are you betting for Value?
      :diamond:   Are you betting to get better hands to fold?

      You want to bet the most villain will call when betting for value.
      You want to bet the least that will make him fold when bluffing.

      So it comes down to what ZakYoun270 said. All this is player-dependent.
      If you haven't already, have a look at:
      The five player types
      In earlier days, there were three more types:
      The 8 Player Types - How to Get Their Money

      One thing is certain, you have to avoid betting big when you have a great hand, and small when you don't.
      It is stunning how fast opponents pick up on that.

      Peace,
      VS
    • Casinodepositors
      Casinodepositors
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      Joined: 20.07.2016 Posts: 10
      Just use the 1/2 ,3/4 buttons if your still not sure. Making a custom bet will always depends on you. For me just stick to those 1/2 or 3/4 buttons when playing poker.
    • VorpalF2F
      VorpalF2F
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      Hi Casinodepositors ,
      Welcome to PokerStrategy.com!

      I agree that being consistent hides the strength of your hand.

      We don't want to be readable though...

      Best of luck,
      VS