FaLLout86: Open Raise Coaching – Day 2

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      Not so long ago we had a 5-day-long coaching course in our German and Russian communities. This course, during which you'll learn how to assess open raise ranges, was created by a famous German coach FaLLout86. And now we proudly present its localized version!

      Train for 20 minutes each day, and in a few days you'll know what ranges are played by best regulars!


      What ranges should I open raise in a given spot? With what should I call raises and 3-bets?
      To answer these questions, we selected a few of the strongest NL $400 regulars and checked their positional raises.

      Also this course was constructed in a way that after you complete it you'll be able to build ranges for your current limits. We merged all the opponents under a single alias in Holdem Manager 2 and then applied some filters.

      Main themes of this course are as follows:
      • Getting to know different Raise-First-In ranges of the best NL $400 regulars.
      • Understanding calling ranges.
      • Which hands to protect after a 3-bet (position dependent).
      • Which boards suit us best after we open raise.
      • Which boards suit us best after we call.


      "Every problem presents an opportunity."



      Since the whole analysis was done in Holdem Manager 2, it will be useful for you to have HM2 as well. If you don't have HM2, it's not a tragedy, of course, but then you'll have to skip some tasks.


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      So please post there:
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      Of course, you are also free to leave feedback about this project, so that we could improve it further.

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      Check out another forum course by FaLLout86:
      Your 20 Minute Poker Training - Fold Equity Overview

      Good luck!

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    • Kogtistiy
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      Open raise ranges, Day 2 – Task 1

      In the previous section, we solved problems with EP & MP open raises, so today we start with CO.

      What do you think, how much (in %) would CO open-raise, on average?
      Of course, any reasonable estimate should be valid here.
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      Open raise ranges, Day 2 – Task 2

      What stat should we add in order to find out how often CO raises first-in?
      CO Steal
      This stat isn't named CO RFI, this time it's CO Steal!
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      Open raise ranges, Day 2 – Task 3


      We see that we open-raise 27.8% from CO on average.
      Try to build this 27.8% range using Equilab.
      There are no right or wrong answers, you can compare your results with ours in the following tasks.
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      Open raise ranges, Day 2 – Task 4

      Which filter (under More Filters) should we use to visualize or CO steal range?
    • Kogtistiy
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      Open raise ranges, Day 2 – Task 5

      What range (in %) do both red and white hands belong to?


      (27.90% range)
      22+, A2s+, K5s+, Q6s+, J8s+, T8s+, 96s+, 86s+, 75s+, 65s, 54s, A9o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo
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      Open raise ranges, Day 2 – Task 6

      Would you like to change anything in our range from Task 5?
      I think this range is nicely built. Looks like there's nothing to change for off-suited hands. A9o can be open-raised profitably, although our hand shouldn't be weaker than that. We could, of course, add J7s and T8s while folding 96s instead, but there's no significant difference in EV.
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      Open raise ranges, Day 2 – Task 7

      What's the reason we can't open with more off-suited hands?
      Weaker off-suits show very bad results in open-raising ranges because they perform badly postflop. We can't bet Turn and River too often with them as we rarely gain more equity. Consequently, we often get weak made hands that are incredibly hard to be played profitably since there's also BU to act after us.
      This is the biggest problem for CO since BU has position on us. If we had position on all 3 opponents after us, we could open weaker Axo hands.
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      Open raise ranges, Day 2 – Task 8

      What stat should we add now to see how much (in %) we raise first-in from BU?
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      Open raise ranges, Day 2 – Task 9

      We steal 49.9% from BU. What could our 50% steal range look like?
      Again, there's no wrong or right answer. This task is for you to check if your range matches the one of our alias.
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      Open raise ranges, Day 2 – Task 10

      What range (in %) should we get with all red and white hands marked?


      46.30%
      22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q8s+, Q6s-Q5s, Q3s-Q2s, J6s+, T8s+, T6s, 96s+, 85s+, 74s+, 64s+, 53s+, 43s, A2o+, K8o+, Q8o+, J8o+, T8o+, 98o
    • Kogtistiy
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      Open raise ranges, Day 2 – Task 11

      This range is close to the average one of 50%.
      What does attract your attention first when you look at this range? Does it look like the chart you've built?
      It's interesting to note that here more off-suited hands are open-raised. Blockers, of course, become a bit more important since we have position on 2 players after us. That's why we can open these 50%.
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      Open raise ranges, Day 2 – Task 12

      I think we've talked enough about open-raising. Let's move on to 3-bet ranges.

      How much (in %) do you think we would 3-bet from MP against EP?
      Any answer between 0% and 100% will do just fine :f_p:
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      Open raise ranges, Day 2 – Task 13

      What stat should we add to see how much we 3-bet from MP?
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      Open raise ranges, Day 2 – Task 14

      Why is it so important to use positional 3-bet stats anyway?
      General 3-bet stats usually fluctuate somewhere in between 7% and 11%. But for separate positions, this doesn't mean anything since in MP we can 3-bet only against EP, and here most players 3-bet much less than 10%.
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      Open raise ranges, Day 2 – Task 15

      Against EP, we 3-bet 5.07%. What would your 3-bet range look like?
      It was imporatnt for you to gain only 5%. Later we'll see if this range is realistic.
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      Open raise ranges, Day 2 – Task 16

      What filters should we set in HM2 to visualize 3-betting range for MP?
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      Open raise ranges, Day 2 – Task 17

      What number should be in 'Middle vs Raiser PFR'?
      We hope it's 100 as we want to get all the spots in which we 3-bet in MP. If this number is not 100, we applied a wrong filter.
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      Open raise ranges, Day 2 – Task 18

      How much (in %) does this range cover (red hands only)?


      (16.74%)
      77+, 55-44, 22, AKs, AJs-A9s, A6s-A5s, A3s, K9s+, K5s, Q8s+, J9s+, T9s, 97s+, 87s, 76s, 65s, ATo+, KQo
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      Open raise ranges, Day 2 – Task 19

      Why is our 3-bet range so big here?
      Of course, it's not 'real'. Here we have only hands that went to showdown, and the variance is very high. Besides, bluff-3-bet hands are different for most players. That's why the range is so big.
      We also should consider that these players can 3-bet linear or polarized ranges.
      So it's very hard to get a simple answer here regarding the 'true' range.
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