Losing all the time..

    • Magogp
      Magogp
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      Joined: 31.03.2016 Posts: 3
      I'm new to poker and in the last 2 weeks i lost 200$ which doesn't seem like alot but it is.. considering that 200$ Is total of 10/20$ that i deposited almost everyday when my balance reached zero again. I don't make new deposits with hope of winning money back, I do it because poker is fun, and i'm addicted. I like the feeling when i win the pot and it makes me want more. Thats why i need help.. I don't mind being brake-even player.. I Just want to keep playing poker without needing to make new deposits every day..

      First week when I started playing I didn't really care about strategies.. I Just played nl2. My bankroll was slowly going down all the time. This week i tried TAG approach to the game without reading much into any guides and i started to win more often, but eventually lose. Yesterday I found these 3 articles, and applied things that i learned from the first link which is about TAG playstyle, but yet to learn more about stealing blinds

      http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=microplnl&Number=7827947&PHPSESSID=&fpart=1#Post7827947

      http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=microplnl&Number=7827947&PHPSESSID=&fpart=1#Post7827947

      http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Number=6073737

      And finally after reading into it, I made another deposit of 10$ and at the end of the day my bankroll was 55$ which could be even more (65-75) if not my destructive habbits.. Which made me lose everything today.. From 55 to 0 again.. And it's not like i turned 10 into 55 in couple lucky minutes.. My bankroll was going all the time up through my whole play session, had 40, lost 10, made it back, had 50, lost 6 and made it back etc.
      I was impressed that one guide improved (i think) my game. I started paying attention to my positions, started folding good hands more often, overall i think i played better..

      I'm Just trying to figure out what made me lose it all again.
      Is it luck i had yesterday that made me win some or are that my habbits?

      Basicly everytime i win bigger pot on nl10 i feel more comfortable risking money on not that good hands, c-betting, 4betting, all risky plays i try to figure out Just to win the pot and not to lose money i have already put in that pot. That makes me go back where i was before winning the pot. For example: 8$ before winning the pot, 14$ after, couple minutes later and i'm at the 10$ At this point I'm starting to fear losing my buyin, still trying to play TAG, but when i don't hit the flop i try to cbet which in 80% cases called, then i double barrel etc. And in couple minutes when i'm at 5$ I start to play like completly fish which makes me lose rest of my buyin.
      But i still don't understand why i Lost all of it.. I tried to play like yesterday.. Today i Lost to many more better hands than mine.. Yesterday when it came to showdown, i was winner like 70%-80% of the time, today it was like 30%

      Don't know if you can track my stats online, I don't have computer atm so i cant show it to you but i play as a mangogp|p* on pokerstars

      Seriously need help, guides.. anything.. I feel so down after losing it all again.. Thought i finally figured it out.. Maybe yesterday there was many more worse players than me playing, maybe because of that i made some $

      Also i'd like to know if im so called fish, based on things that i wrote here?
  • 9 replies
    • SDK1987
      SDK1987
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      Joined: 12.11.2008 Posts: 27,140
      Hello Magogp

      Welcome on the PokerStrategy forum :welcome:

      The most important thing is that you are using appropriate bankroll management (BRM) here.
      If you play NL10 for example I would recommend a bankroll of at least $200 to play it safe and that’s already an aggressive BRM approach I think. So if you start with $20 you can better start on NL2 and move up to NL5 when you have $100.

      I’m not too much in to cash games, but the links you have posted are already 10 years old. So this information is most likely outdated. I think it’s best to start with the basics and then you can start with reading our No Limit Beginners course with confidant91 thread so you learn from the start.

      Further I recommend posting some hands you don’t know if you play it right on our Hand discussions for No Limit and if you don’t know how to post hands the appropriate way you can always check our How to use the hand discussion forums thread.

      I think this is already a lot of information, but if you have more questions don’t hesitate to ask them.

      Best regards,
      SDK1987
    • la55i
      la55i
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      Joined: 27.01.2013 Posts: 5,333
      SDK gave you already couple of very good tips how to get your poker career started. I just want to add that the mental side of poker is as important as any of those strategies. You said that you change the way you play when you win big or lose big. This is called tilting. Even great players can lose a lot of money in short time if they let their emotions affect their play too much. A great way to start fighting against these mental leaks is to read The Mental Game of Poker 1&2. There is also a lot of good material about that here in PokerStrategy.

      Also if you wan't to have fun, maybe make some money, but you are still quite happy if you play break even, I recommend you to check out the free money and first deposit bonus offers from strategy's partner rooms. A good bonus and rakeback will help a lot :)
    • thienimon
      thienimon
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      Joined: 22.08.2007 Posts: 17
      I totally agree with SDK1987 & la55i. It all about bankroll management and mentality at the table. Start out building a bankroll, just keep it simple. Since your playing at micro limit set yourself goals before sitting down at the table. Sample, if I lose 3x buyin I will sit up and take a break (normally after losing over 3 buy-in your mind wonders off to tilt zone). If I double up and feel the table dynamic of the table not profitable I would leave.

      Re-depositing is one your biggest leak. If your mind keep thinking, "oh I just deposit and win my money back" this can be lead to self destruction long term poker career losing (been here). Recommend read Doyle Super System NL, and best of luck.:f_thumbsup:
    • Mobcasinos
      Mobcasinos
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      Joined: 24.05.2016 Posts: 37
      Must have something wrong with the way your playing. A good way to be a good poker player is by playing with free money. Their are good players out their playing free games.
    • Vivagonetta
      Vivagonetta
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      Joined: 18.07.2008 Posts: 6
      I can coach u sometimes for free if you want. Just hit me up
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    • AlexVilla55
      AlexVilla55
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      Joined: 27.08.2016 Posts: 3
      I have dealt with few stabs but ami me goes wrong after I won several sitgo, now is not whether to start a strong sitgo if my deposit is $ 20 and play de10 $ directly :f_drink:
    • SDK1987
      SDK1987
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      Joined: 12.11.2008 Posts: 27,140
      Originally posted by AlexVilla55
      I have dealt with few stabs but ami me goes wrong after I won several sitgo, now is not whether to start a strong sitgo if my deposit is $ 20 and play de10 $ directly :f_drink:
      For $10 SNG’s you need to have a bankroll of at least $500, but that depends what kind of SNG’s you are playing. Also it’s smart to start with the lowest buy-inns first to improve your game. Otherwise you play the whole time against players that are better than you.
    • Ovalman
      Ovalman
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      Joined: 13.05.2013 Posts: 42
      Start at the bottom up and not the other way around. I've built several rolls from zero but even depositing you should be using proper bankroll. At $10, your highest buy in should be 50c whether that's cash or SnGs. You also have to drop down until you can drop down no more.

      Despite what others may say, it's actually better to play short stacked in cash. You will make less mistakes post flop and take your winnings away as soon as you double up and short stack again. When you master pre flop play, you can then go deeper and explore post flop.

      SnGs, play ultra tight pre flop and bet bet bet when you have it. At micro stakes, bet sizing doesn't matter. Play tight until the bubble and loosen up.

      MTT's are trickier as you can't table select but look for added money and overlay tournaments where your money will always go further.

      Play the points system and cash in/ play freerolls and get as much out of the site as possible. Google for passwords if you have to.

      The good news is you asked for help. You realise your doing something wrong and have the urge to correct it.

      Hope this helps.