[NL20-NL50] Q4s flush, get away or take passive turn/river line?

    • Balanarm
      Balanarm
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      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      SB:
      $28,17
      Hero:
      $46,59
      MP3:
      $30,66
      CO:
      $25,00
      BU:
      $24,45

      0,1/0,25 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.65 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BB with Q:diamond: , 4:diamond: . CO posts a blind of $0,25.
      MP3 folds, CO checks, BU calls $0,25, SB folds, Hero checks.

      Flop: ($0,85) 5:diamond: , J:diamond: , 3:diamond: (3 players)
      Hero bets $1,00, CO folds, BU calls $1,00.

      Turn: ($2,85) A:club: (2 players)
      Hero bets $2,25, BU raises to $4,50, Hero raises to $12,25, BU raises to $23,20 (All-In), Hero calls $10,95.

      River: ($49,25) T:club: (2 players)


      Final Pot: $49,25
  • 8 replies
    • TimothyVdp1
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      he'll have a lower flush or maybe even set/2pair here a lot so just get it in there ;)
      lot of action/hand killers on river (any or pair)
    • Balanarm
      Balanarm
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      Originally posted by TimothyVdp1
      he'll have a lower flush or maybe even set/2pair here a lot so just get it in there ;)
      lot of action/hand killers on river (any or pair)
      Do you think he would just call this draw heavy flop withsuch strong hands but not the nuts ?
    • darkonebg
      darkonebg
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      Joined: 17.01.2008 Posts: 9,508
      Well, we discussed it in the coaching.
      My opinion, he limped a raggy ace, got a pair on the flop, turned two pair.Or decided to get tricky with a set. Often times you'll see lower flushes also. I just dont see a way to fold the third nutflush.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Nh.
      Can´t really fold here.
      He could easily have here lower flush.
    • Balanarm
      Balanarm
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      Originally posted by Kaitz20
      Nh.
      Can´t really fold here.
      He could easily have here lower flush.
      I realy don't believe people can just flatcall flop overbet with a low flush.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      If you think that no worse hands would call, why did you overbet flop?
      Probably some players would raise there, some slowplay.
      And if he coldcalled flop, why not coldcall turn with A high flush and then shove river.
    • Balanarm
      Balanarm
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      Originally posted by Kaitz20
      If you think that no worse hands would call, why did you overbet flop?
      Probably some players would raise there, some slowplay.
      And if he coldcalled flop, why not coldcall turn with A high flush and then shove river.
      No, I mean I don't see low flush hands/trips/2pairs not protecting here on the flop, board is just too drawy.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Agree these hands should raise on the flop, but against 47/6/1,5 in 103 hands you can´t really expect that he´d play every time exactly that you think reasonable player should play.

      Against that player Q high flush is nuts on that board.
      No need to slow down.