[NL20-NL50] NL50: KK deep vs minreraise flop.

    • Diedobal
      Diedobal
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      Joined: 07.10.2007 Posts: 558
      $0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
      6 players
      Converted at weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG ($41.65)
      UTG+1 ($65.00)
      CO ($26.60)
      BTN ($127.70) 39/17/3.5 ~100 hands
      Hero (SB) ($104.90)
      BB ($6.05)

      Pre-flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is SB K:diamond: K:spade:
      UTG calls $0.50, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.50, Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2.50, UTG calls $2.50, BTN calls $2.50

      Flop: 3:diamond: 8:diamond: 5:club: ($12, 4 players)
      Hero bets $8, BB goes all-in $3.05, 1 fold, BTN raises to $16, Hero calls $8

      Turn: 9:club: ($47.05, 3 players)
      Hero checks, BTN bets $14.50, Hero calls $14.50

      River: 5:diamond: ($76.05, 3 players)
      Hero checks, BTN bets $11, Hero calls $11

      Allways feel a bit uncomfortable playing deep vs fishy players as they are unpredictable. Any advise would help.

      Call minreraise flop ok?
      Turnplay? c/c, c/r, b/c or b/f
      River?
  • 6 replies
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Flop is b/f.
      You´re probably behind.
      You can´t control the size of the pot
      You´re deep and one player is all-in. he has no reason here min-raise with 99+
      You can´t call any reasonable size turn bet even if turn is blank, since then you have to call river shove.
    • Diedobal
      Diedobal
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      Joined: 07.10.2007 Posts: 558
      Originally posted by Kaitz20
      Flop is b/f.
      You´re probably behind.
      You can´t control the size of the pot
      You´re deep and one player is all-in. he has no reason here min-raise with 99+
      You can´t call any reasonable size turn bet even if turn is blank, since then you have to call river shove.
      Does this note I have on BTN change my play? :

      limps/openlimps&call both QQ and AA preflop (utg+co). c/minraises this on 983ss boards.
    • TribunCaesar
      TribunCaesar
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      Joined: 29.04.2007 Posts: 13,264
      Originally posted by Kaitz20
      Flop is b/f.
      You´re probably behind.
      You can´t control the size of the pot
      You´re deep and one player is all-in. he has no reason here min-raise with 99+
      You can´t call any reasonable size turn bet even if turn is blank, since then you have to call river shove.
      this

      Meh, on another board your note would change something, but here....the board just really sucks. There will be now card you like on turn or river. If it would be for 100BB, ok. But not for 200BB.


      Best regards,
      TribunCaesar
    • Diedobal
      Diedobal
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      Joined: 07.10.2007 Posts: 558
      Originally posted by TribunCaesar
      Originally posted by Kaitz20
      Flop is b/f.
      You´re probably behind.
      You can´t control the size of the pot
      You´re deep and one player is all-in. he has no reason here min-raise with 99+
      You can´t call any reasonable size turn bet even if turn is blank, since then you have to call river shove.
      this

      Meh, on another board your note would change something, but here....the board just really sucks. There will be now card you like on turn or river. If it would be for 100BB, ok. But not for 200BB.


      Best regards,
      TribunCaesar
      Wouldn't b/f to minreraise be incredibly weaktight? (EXPLOITABLE)

      Also my image on table was rather laggy: 26/24 with 9% 3bets.
    • mrjorisa
      mrjorisa
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      Joined: 30.03.2008 Posts: 200
      IMO, his minraise here is strong (obviously not doing it for FE). He's playing it really tricky, you're never gonna have easy spots on turn or river and you're usually behind. Don't have to be worried about how it'll make you look weak tight. In fact I think it'll be good for your table image as it looks like you're raising and betting light.
    • TribunCaesar
      TribunCaesar
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      Joined: 29.04.2007 Posts: 13,264
      No it wouldn't make you look weak tight but It'l save your a lot of money and you probably make the right play vs his hand by folding.