[NL2-NL10] NL25 stealing

    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $7.65
      BB:
      $15.80

      0.1/0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (4 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is SB with A:club: , 9:club:
      2 folds, Hero raises to $0.85, BB calls $0.60.

      Flop: ($1.70) J:club: , 3:spade: , 7:spade: (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.20, BB calls $1.20.

      Turn: ($4.10) A:heart: (2 players)
      Hero bets $3.00, BB folds, Hero gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $4.10

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows a pair of aces (Ac 9c)

      Hero wins with a pair of aces (Ac 9c)

      Please tell me how I should steal (first in the pot, late position).
      Generally when I am in SB, I steal with any hand if the BB is tight.
      When I am in late position (CO or BU), I steal with AXs, KJ, KT, QJ, any PP , (assuming all opponents behind me are unknown) unless I have stats on a very loose opponent. Or should I limit stealing because at the low limits, unknowns are likelier to be loose passive?
  • 6 replies
    • burek2000
      burek2000
      Bronze
      Joined: 16.11.2007 Posts: 3,105
      I saw you playing with increased stack a lot, I think playing 15-25 BB is much more profitable with SSS...

      I would fold preflop, because guy on the BB seem pretty loose and that's not profitable for stealing, specially when you're OOP postflop.

      As played, nice hand, just bet a bit less on the turn, like 2.50-2.75.

      Considering your question about stealing, from SB I like to always push preflop because it's easy, efficient, doesn't give you OOP hardtime and handy when you multitable 16 tables. I use Sklansky-Chubukov ranges. And here's your bigger stack a problem. ;) From BU and CO I raise all facecards, PPs and sometimes SCs against unkown because they are well playable postflop IP. With stack <15BB I prefer to just push directly, again, according to Sklansky-Chubukov.
    • burek2000
      burek2000
      Bronze
      Joined: 16.11.2007 Posts: 3,105
      Oh, btw you shoud know stealing isn't that important/profitable on lower limits, cause there's a lot of loose players. If you stay tight you'll get the max value imo.
    • alejandrosh
      alejandrosh
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.07.2008 Posts: 4,346
      why are you playing a 4 max game?
      why is your stack so big?

      about the hand: I think raising to 3bb preflop is cheaper for future steals , flop is good and also is turn.

      about stealing, I didn't steal loose on nl25 my SHC hands got enough action
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      I guessed I have been playing up to 30+ BB. Too lazy to close tables and open new ones (since there aren't that many super loose tables). Then again I think you're right.

      So once you are above 25 BB, you just sit out at the next blind?
    • burek2000
      burek2000
      Bronze
      Joined: 16.11.2007 Posts: 3,105
      Originally posted by mbml
      So once you are above 25 BB, you just sit out at the next blind?
      Yup, that's also what basic articles tell, I think.
    • Gerv
      Gerv
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      Hello mbml,

      Originally posted by mbml
      I guessed I have been playing up to 30+ BB. Too lazy to close tables and open new ones (since there aren't that many super loose tables). Then again I think you're right.

      So once you are above 25 BB, you just sit out at the next blind?
      There are enough juicy tables on NL25!!

      As played, 3bb preflop on the SB is my choice
      C-bet & 2nd barrel is standard because you spike your ace on the Turn

      Only steal against opponents with a high sample size & a high FoldBB to steal (>500 or >750 hands)

      Best regards,
      Gerv