Guess courtiebee's hand and get rewarded!

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    • Was she bluffing?

      • 8
        No, never!
        62%
      • 5
        For sure!
        38%
      Total: 13 Votes
    • KTU
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      Guess courtiebee's hand and get rewarded!



      Hey guys,

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      The hand - She bet the flop, checked the turn and fires the river again

      MP1: t90782 M = 28.82
      MP2: t39228 M = 12.45
      CO: t31487 M = 10.00
      BTN: t43284 M = 13.74
      SB: t85109 M = 27.02
      BB: t44082 M = 13.99
      courtiebee (UTG): t29349 M = 9.32
      UTG+1: t20782 M = 6.60
      UTG+2: t21044 M = 6.68

      Pre Flop: (t3150) Hero is UTG with :censored:
      courtiebee raises to t2558, 3 folds, MP2 calls t2558, 4 folds

      Flop: (t8266) T:spade: J:heart: 7:heart: (2 players)
      courtiebee bets t4133, MP2 calls t4133

      Turn: (t16532) T:club: (2 players)
      courtiebee checks, MP2 checks

      River: (t16532) 6:diamond: (2 players)
      courtiebee bets t8266, MP2 calls t8266


  • 20 replies
    • rompas
      rompas
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      who will go ahead and make the first guess? :f_wink:
    • UPAY4DINNER
      UPAY4DINNER
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      :Kh: :Kd:
    • rompas
      rompas
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      nobody wants to win? :f_ugly:
    • siuranger
      siuranger
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      Joined: 10.08.2007 Posts: 7
      ATs of hearts
    • henkhenkenst
      henkhenkenst
      Basic
      Joined: 09.07.2015 Posts: 5
      KQ
    • Alexdis73
      Alexdis73
      Basic
      Joined: 22.06.2016 Posts: 1
      KK
    • AxwellM8
      AxwellM8
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      Joined: 27.06.2016 Posts: 1
      Ah Kh
    • metalmonkey80
      metalmonkey80
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      89s
    • igniter
      igniter
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      When courtie raises UTG this late in the tournament she reps something like:
      {44+, A8s+, ATo+, QTs+, QJo+, K9s+, KJo+} along with some suited connectors every now and then.

      She could lead the flop with pretty much any two hearts, a set for protection on a fairly wet board, a J or 2 pair, or a T with backdoor spades and potential other draws and of course overpairs. Our range now is:
      {77, TT++, KQs, KJ/QJ/JT, Axs (hearts or spades) }. T7s or T8s and other smaller SC-type hands are unlikely here because of the UTG open.

      After villain calls the half pot bet, courtie opts to check the turn. Villain can be calling with a heart draw, a T, or a J here. Thus, when courtie checks the turn, she has either improved dramatically or is attempting to pot control versus the occasional T in villain's range. However, if she had an overpair here like KK/AA, two pair, or top pair with a strong kicker, she would definitely bet to force a flush/straight draw to pay and/or get value off of a J. She knows that villain does not have many Ts in this position and therefore the check is either a strong hand or with intention of check-calling a bet w/ a draw, or just giving up on an Ax/missed backdoors and small draws to a big bet. She probably bets most of her higher J hands as well, although she may pot control this as she only really beats draws with KJ/QJ now.
      {77, TT, JJ, KQ hearts, maybe KJ/QJ, Ax (hearts and A of spades)}

      The turn changes essentially nothing for courtie, so after villain checks behind the turn, she knows he missed a lot of his draws. He would most likely bet a T on the turn so she knows he probably is not holding a Tx hand. She would assume that he bets a J for value so I do not think she puts villain on a strong J. She might put him on a pair like 88/99. He could also have slowplayed a monster but that is a but less likely. Thus, when she bets, she is either better a monster for value against a smaller hand, or trying to push villain off a mid pair type hand with a busted draw. She probably checks smaller jacks or pairs.

      My best guess here is that she fires on Axs (hearts)/KQs (hearts) or 77/TT (with TT being way less likely obvs). Since someone already said KQ^, let's go with 77 (spade, heart?) (Also, I just do not think she checks turn that often with something like KQ of hearts, so many outs, so I feel she is usually much stronger or weaker here).
    • HeyWatchitt
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      Opening range preflop:
      77+, AQo+,JTs+,T9s,98s...maybe J9s and also A5s if she was Doug Polk

      after the flop:

      I do think she bets trips, the board is not that scary yet.

      Value: Any J, Two pair or Overpair: 77 JJ TT QQ KK AA JTs QJs KJs AJs (J9s) 98s

      Semibluff: any Overcards/OESD/FD/combo : KQs AKo AKs AQs AQo 99 88 Th9h

      Check: T9s TQs KTs ATs

      Range:
      77 JJ TT QQ KK AA JTs QJs KJs AJs (J9s) KQs AKo AKs AQs AQo 99 88 Th9h

      After the turn:

      what Value/Semibluff hands just became nuts or middle of the pack

      Monster: JJ 77 JT are now a full house TT are absolute nuts, still have the strait with 98s
      Medium hands: top pairs, could be beat by any T now, and a middle pair can call the flop bet for 3:1 when still that deep

      QJs KJs AJs (J9s)


      I think she bets the combo draws again QhKh QhAh KhAh
      the rest Im not sure about ( would love feedback on what is good/bad play here I am really confused)

      Range:
      JJ 77 JT TT 98s Th9h for trapping
      KQs AKo AKs AQo 99 88 QQ KK AA QJs KJs AJs (J9s)

      River:
      MP3 checked behind so maybe he didnt hit his trips

      she can bet

      for value: JJ 77 JT TT 98s Th9h, maybe QQ KK AA AJs

      bluffs: KQs AKo AKs AQo 99 88

      medium hands: QJs KJs

      I think she is not bluffing here, really scary spot for AJ here, basically a bluffcatcher. Fold. (#foldpre /r/pokercirclejerk)

      I bet there are many mistakes in this, please feel free to point out the most obvious ones. My guess for her hand is

      JsJc
    • Nurlanbai
      Nurlanbai
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      QQ
    • ElDiablo648
      ElDiablo648
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      KT easy
    • niekadanelaimiu
      niekadanelaimiu
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      Kh Kc
    • pluto7
      pluto7
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      Sad, that we don't know anything about villain. She could have AK,AQ,AJ,AT,JJ,TT,77,99,88,KQ,AA,KK and QQ.
      As played I don't think she has AK,AQ,88,99,KQ on this board. As said to often called on this board texture on the river for a bluff. Maybe AJ, but blocked by villain and less likely, but possible. Also possible AhTh.
      Maybe 77, JJ or TT. But would she stop betting on such a turn card on that board texture? Maybe, we don't know, because we don't know anything about this villain. AA,KK and QQ possible.
      I say KhKc.
    • M1rCea
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      Going for the old AA with no flushdraw blockers, soo let's say AdAc.

      As for reasoning, flop pretty straightforward value bet, although we can check sometimes because flop hits MP range pretty well, he has JJ, TT easily preflop.
      turn hits villain's range better than ours so we have to check quite a bit of our range on this turn. Doing this with AA makes sense because we block AJ that may call us down so less likely he has that, we don't block his bluffs, like KQs, FD's so it's more likely he has those, and AA doesn't need much protection on this board so a checkback wouldn't be that harmful for our hand.

      River: easy value bet, we're only behind slowplayed FH/Quads which should be pretty rare.

      there u go with some strat talk
      peace out
    • JustinDejong
      JustinDejong
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      i ll go with 66
    • pianist8716
      pianist8716
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      :Ah: :Th:
    • CRStals
      CRStals
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      I think it's A7h.
    • KTU
      KTU
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      And the winner is ...


      She had :Qc: :Qs: and therefore the winners is:
      Nurlanbai
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      The winner here is M1rCea. Congratulations and have fun with our Diamond status!

      I think one of the main points of checking the turn and betting the river again is that it is the only way to get payoff from pairs like 88,99 and is unlikely to get a three street payoff from hands like KJs as we are openraising from UTG and will be perceived quite strong. So I think it is a good decision to go for two valuebets and make it as easy as possible for our opponent to call us down. I think her line has the same EV against KJ, AJ as betting the flop but pairs are more likely to bluffcatch the river.
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