[NL2-NL10] NL25 calling a potsize bet in an unraised pot

    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $5.00
      UTG2:
      $3.60
      MP1:
      $33.60

      0.1/0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BB with 8:heart: , 2:heart:
      UTG1 folds, UTG2 calls $0.25, MP1 calls $0.25, 5 folds, Hero checks.

      Flop: ($0.85) 9:heart: , 5:heart: , 4:club: (3 players)
      Hero checks, UTG2 checks, MP1 bets $0.75, Hero calls $0.75, UTG2 folds.

      Turn: ($2.35) A:diamond: (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP1 checks.

      River: ($2.35) K:diamond: (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP1 bets $1.50, Hero folds, MP1 gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $2.35

      Amt to call / pot = 30%
      I get 9 outs for my flush and I have 2 backdoor flush draws (I don't know how to calculate this). Can my call be justified?
  • 4 replies
    • burek2000
      burek2000
      Bronze
      Joined: 16.11.2007 Posts: 3,105
      You can count only on your FD and your odds to call don't justify the call, if you look at the draws in freeplays you'll find the chart what odds you need for each type of draw.
    • mikelstwe
      mikelstwe
      Bronze
      Joined: 29.08.2008 Posts: 156
      I fully agree
    • Nunki
      Nunki
      Bronze
      Joined: 25.10.2006 Posts: 865
      As others rightly say, you can't call here.

      1) You might hit and not get paid.

      2) You might hit and get stacked.

      3) 80% of the time you miss anyway.


      You certainly can't go for a c/r either: your hand is too weak and I doubt if you have much FE versus the loose-limping-villain(s) on such a low flop.

      Your backdoor straight draws are worth about 1/2 an out.
    • Gerv
      Gerv
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      Hello mbml,

      You need to discount heaviliy if you have J:h2 for example or lower for your flushdraw so that's why I fold 2:1 with this holding, backdoors can only be counted when you intend to shove postflop

      Best regards,
      Gerv