What is this M?

    • Smileyphil
      Smileyphil
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      In several of the posts there is an M value?

      What is this value and how does it work/apply to tournaments?

      Sorry if this is something obvious but I couldn't see any mention of it in the strategy area.
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    • cannell555
      cannell555
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      Hi Smileyphil,

      M = The amount of orbits you will take to blind out, at the current blind level.

      Its like saying I have 20 BB's. Apart from the fact M takes the big blind, small blind and antes into account.

      Hope thats understandable :D
      Stiev
    • gavinonymous
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      M is a concept most are familiar from Harrington's books on hold'em.

      M is the ratio of your stack to the pot before any action (blinds plus antes)

      If your stack is 15000, and the blinds are 500/1000, antes are 100 and 9 players that makes.

      M= 15000/(500+1000+9x100) = 15000/2600 ~ 5.8

      Instead of just looking at the number of BB, we see that we can survive six rounds of blinds and antes.

      M ranges define your playing options. There are different M range zones Harrington discusses; green, yellow, orange and red.

      There is also a 'Q' which is your stack compared to the average stack (I'm not sure how useful this is?)

      Maybe the letters themselves come from James Bond movies?
    • bah22
      bah22
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      Hi,
      M is a value that is based on sum of all the chips before anyone acts in the pot or this is the sum of BB+SB+antes. The idea is that you must calculate your stack to this value M since every round you will be blinded with exactly this much of chips.
      You can read more about this in Dan Harrinton's books. At least this was where i found about this value M.

      LOL i was too late i guess! :)
    • Smileyphil
      Smileyphil
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      Ok I see thanks for clearing that up.

      Does Dan Harrintons book deal specifically with MTT's or is it for hold 'em in general?

      I may have to get a copy of it :D
    • bah22
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      It is mostly for MTTs. His books helped me a lot to improve my tournament play!
      If you are a MTT player you should definitely read them!
    • nafar84
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      Originally posted by gavinonymous
      There is also a 'Q' which is your stack compared to the average stack (I'm not sure how useful this is?)
      I think Q is mostly a general indicator of where you stand, if Q is less than 0.5 for example then you know you might need to double up soon... but M is the "strong force" and should therefore always be "obeyed" more than Q.
    • alejandrosh
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      Most important thing :D
    • grummeler
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      nothing more to add but
      GET THIS FUCKING GREAT BOOK! :)
    • Vargan
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      GET THESE FUCKING GREAT BOOKS!!!!

      I think its time to reread them. :]