[NL2-NL10] Nl10 - KK OOP

    • Gamer135
      Gamer135
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      My apologies for the formatting. If anyone can point me to a decent Cake hand converter, I would be grateful.

      $.05/$.10 No Limit Holdem

      Seat 1: (10.05 in chips)
      Seat 2: (21.05 in chips)
      Seat 3: (14.75 in chips)
      Seat 4: (15.30 in chips)
      Seat 5: (4.30 in chips)
      Seat 6: (10.00 in chips) BTN
      Seat 7: (6.10 in chips) SB
      Seat 8: (2.85 in chips) BB
      Seat 9: (2.40 in chips)
      Seat 10: Hero (2.00 in chips)

      SB: posts small blind $0.05
      BB: posts big blind $0.10

      Dealt to Hero K:spade: K:club:
      1 fold
      Hero: raises to $0.40
      2 folds
      MP3: calls
      4 folds

      FLOP ($0.95): Q:spade: T:diamond: A:heart:
      Hero: bets $0.60
      MP3: calls

      TURN ($2.15): 6:heart:
      Hero: checks
      MP3: bets $1
      Hero: ??
  • 8 replies
    • dandycal
      dandycal
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      Because of the drawy board on flop I think you could bet flop higher, with a direct push. You'd still have outs for gutshot+set (6outs) against Ax.

      As played, it seems you have to fold turn.
    • TroubleMaker23
      TroubleMaker23
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      Joined: 23.08.2008 Posts: 113
      I would go all-in on Flop


      about the converter... i use this one:

      http://www.thehandconverter.com

      i like it... never tryed another though
    • abundance211
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      I don't see why to go all in on flop. If MP3 called with Ax he wont fold.

      You made your c-bet on flop and he called. So it is check/fold on turn.

      Save your remaining 1$ for better hands (don't forget to buy in to 20BB though)
    • IngolPoker
      IngolPoker
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      Joined: 05.09.2006 Posts: 10,472
      Originally posted by abundance211
      I don't see why to go all in on flop. If MP3 called with Ax he wont fold.

      You made your c-bet on flop and he called. So it is check/fold on turn.

      Save your remaining 1$ for better hands (don't forget to buy in to 20BB though)
      exactly!

      a flop push makes absolutely no sense! Btw, which draws are out there? just gutshots...
    • dandycal
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      Yes, yes, I understand it, push makes no sense indeed.

      Could you give me any general guidelines regarding when to deviate from the 2/3 bet on flop? I am often a little confused when there is a drawy board.

      Thanks.
    • IngolPoker
      IngolPoker
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      generally you should push as a cbet if the 2/3 potsize cbet costs more than half of your stack

      Otherwise a higher bet is never the best option
    • redvel
      redvel
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      Joined: 08.12.2008 Posts: 35
      Originally posted by dandycal
      Yes, yes, I understand it, push makes no sense indeed.

      Could you give me any general guidelines regarding when to deviate from the 2/3 bet on flop? I am often a little confused when there is a drawy board.

      Thanks.
      The general guideline: The more draws there are, the stronger you bet (3/4 up to the pot; and with the weaker hands possibly). My logic behind this is: the more draws there are, the more chances you have for someone to call with a draw (making you the favorite to win).

      While you bet less (1/2 to 2/3 pot) and more carefully on boards like Q-7-2 rainbow with something like KQ. Because these are the boards where if you get called, you get called by a set or AQ. No need to risk big when there's not much to defend from.
    • redvel
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      By the way, Fold that turn. The guy flopped a straight.

      He would have raised flop with either a set or two pair. He would have checked behind the turn with Ax. The only hand left is a flopped straight. (This is not 100% case of course, but the most often encountering one on NL10).

      Esp when he's betting that weak (less than 1/2 pot) - he's asking you to call it down (yes, they are capable of understanding the concept that the less they bet, the more chances they have you'll call it). He'd never do that with smt like TJ, in which case they'd either give it up or shove (or at least made the pot+ sized bet). This one was a real "please call me, i need $1 more...".

      Gl.