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[NL2-NL10] NL2 TP bad kicker

    • doshiindia
      Joined: 08.01.2009 Posts: 28
      $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Holdem
      5 players
      Converted at

      UTG piglighter ($6.65)
      CO akran187 ($0.82)
      BTN oteka2 ($4.91)
      SB HERO ($1.98)
      BB Ronaldinho2402 ($9.15)

      Pre-flop: ($0.03, 5 players)
      piglighter calls $0.02, akran187 calls $0.02, 1 fold, HERO calls $0.01, Ronaldinho2402 raises to $0.06, piglighter calls $0.04, akran187 calls $0.04, HERO calls $0.04

      Flop: 2:diamond: Q:club: 8:heart: ($0.26, 4 players)
      HERO bets $0.20, 1 fold, piglighter calls $0.20, 1 fold

      Turn: 3:heart: ($0.66, 2 players)
      HERO bets $0.30, piglighter calls $0.30

      River: 5:club: ($1.26, 2 players)
      HERO bets $0.20, piglighter raises to $0.92, HERO calls $0.72

      Final Pot: $2.93
      HERO shows: T:club: Q:spade:
      piglighter shows: T:heart: J:club:

      HERO wins $2.93 ( won +$1.45 )
      Ronaldinho2402 lost -$0.06
      piglighter lost -$1.48
      akran187 lost -$0.06

      - - -

      I feel like this is one of the worst plays I recently did. Any suggestions apart from folding preflop? No stats for any of the players, this was my 2nd hand at that table.
  • 2 replies
    • caltabiano
      Joined: 09.03.2007 Posts: 1,992
      You had odds of 5:1 pre-flop. It's ok to call. The problem is that your hand will be dominated very often, so you could find a fold as well, considering you're out of position.

      The pot already gets too big pre-flop and QT isn't the kind of hand with which you want to play for a big pot, since the bigger the pot is, the hardest it is to fold.

      But, as played. I'd bet flop, bet on the turn since it's now heads up. I'd bet something like 40c though. And then on the river if you're going to bet, bet something like 50c. 20c looks very weak and you don't really wanna get reraised.

      My lines might be too aggressive for this hand though, I'd like to here a judge.

      I think you could also just play it more passive. But I'd want to bet flop for information. And then on the heads up turn, I'd want to bet again and on the river I'd probably end up calling a bet, so I might as well just bet again, cause I don't think his hand improved in the course of the game.
    • radyan111
      Joined: 03.07.2008 Posts: 1,151
      Fold preflop two times ;) .

      I'm not leading out on the flop with a top pair mediocre kicker here, I can check/call flop and check/fold turn and river unless I improve or I have some reads.

      But if you bet and get a call you have to assume he's got a piece of this flop cause the board is dry and there are only 2 gutshots possible. If I knew he's a calling station I may bet fold turn and maybe even bet fold river (but if you decide to do it, bet bigger on the river and then you have an easy fold if he raises).