[NL2-NL10] NL25 FR: KJs how to play? (gutshot+flushdraw)

    • pumpkinx
      pumpkinx
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      Joined: 18.01.2009 Posts: 28
      When i see this hand again i feel i should have gone all in on the flop, am i right or should i just bet 2,25$ (3xbet) insteed of 1,75$ on flop and then check fold turn and river? (Btw,I know im not supposed to play this hand :rolleyes: )

      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      SB:
      $11,90
      BB:
      $23,05
      Hero:
      $4,85

      0,1/0,25 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K:diamond: , J:diamond:
      3 folds, Hero calls $0,25, 3 folds, SB calls $0,15, BB checks.

      Flop: ($0,75) J:spade: , A:diamond: , Q:diamond: (3 players)
      SB bets $0,75, BB folds, Hero raises to $1,75, SB calls $1,00.

      Turn: ($4,25) 9:club: (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero checks.

      River: ($4,25) 5:spade: (2 players)
      SB bets $4,25, Hero folds, SB gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $4,25
  • 7 replies
    • alejandrosh
      alejandrosh
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      Joined: 02.07.2008 Posts: 4,346
      go all in on flop but please fold KJs from mp2.
    • pumpkinx
      pumpkinx
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      Joined: 18.01.2009 Posts: 28
      fast response, didnt even finish my edit of the post :D
      I usually fold, maybe i was tilting a bit ;)
      thx
    • Midazolam
      Midazolam
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      Joined: 25.09.2007 Posts: 7,820
      fold preflop

      When you are playing SSS you never ever limp first in.

      At the flop you can push or fold.
      I would fold, I thnik your fold equity is not high enough and you don´t have the outs.
    • redvel
      redvel
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      Joined: 08.12.2008 Posts: 35
      Fold preflop, Fold flop. Fold KJ on the first opportunity you can.
    • dandycal
      dandycal
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      Joined: 10.10.2008 Posts: 1,711
      Originally posted by Midazolam
      I would fold, I thnik your fold equity is not high enough and you don´t have the outs.
      Can't he count the 9 FD outs + 2 for trips + 3 for Gutshot = 14 outs, which is surely enough for a push?
    • burek2000
      burek2000
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      Joined: 16.11.2007 Posts: 3,105
      Fold preflop, but it was enough said about that. :)

      As played, you have an easy push on the flop. You could also raise, but the raise would consist of most of your stack(2.5-3$), so push is better, specially because your chances for winning lower on the turn if you don't improve your hand.

      About outs, you have at least 14 outs as dandycal said, but I think on average you can count at least 1 more out for the king, that's because SB is not a coldcaller, but only SB completer, so I don't put him on AJ-AK.

      EDIT: Forgot to mention, 13+ outs is enough to go all-in even w/o fold equity.
    • Gerv
      Gerv
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      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      Originally posted by burek2000
      Fold preflop, but it was enough said about that. :)

      As played, you have an easy push on the flop. You could also raise, but the raise would consist of most of your stack(2.5-3$), so push is better, specially because your chances for winning lower on the turn if you don't improve your hand.

      About outs, you have at least 14 outs as dandycal said, but I think on average you can count at least 1 more out for the king, that's because SB is not a coldcaller, but only SB completer, so I don't put him on AJ-AK.

      EDIT: Forgot to mention, 13+ outs is enough to go all-in even w/o fold equity.

      As played Shove the Turn is the alternative move if you did not shoved postflop!

      Best regards,
      Gerv