[NL2-NL10] nl10 JJ MP2..

    • TheBrood
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      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      SB:
      $10.09
      Hero:
      $11.77
      MP3:
      $5.89

      0.05/0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J:club: , J:spade:
      3 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, MP3 calls $0.40, 2 folds, SB calls $0.35, BB folds.

      Flop: ($1.30) 8:spade: , K:diamond: , K:spade: (3 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $0.70, MP3 calls $0.70, SB calls $0.70.

      Turn: ($3.40) 7:diamond: (3 players)
      SB checks, Hero checks, MP3 checks.

      River: ($3.40) A:spade: (3 players)
      SB checks, Hero checks, MP3 bets $3.40, SB calls $3.40, Hero folds.

      Final Pot: $10.20

      I figured one of them had a K so go for pot control on turn...
  • 8 replies
    • caltabiano
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      I think you gotta fire a second barrel. It's very unlikely one of the has a K.

      They could be on a flush draw, 99, TT. Remember that they don't believe you have the K. If you fire a second barrel they'll start getting scared. If you get reraised, you gotta fold.
    • TheBrood
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      But I dont see them folding to this turn card
    • caltabiano
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      They don't have to. You have good chances of still being ahead.


      Ideally they fold. Not necessarily because of the card. But they might start believing you have a K.

      But if they don't, you could end up heads up on the river, hopefully in position
    • TheBrood
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      Have you considered them having a K or even better? This looks like WAWB situation so I go for pot control.

      I beat 99, TT and FD, thats it =(

      I lose to QQ, slow-played KK/AA, Kx, 88, maybe 77
    • radyan111
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      Nice hand imo.

      I think it's ok to contibet on that flop, but when you get called it's a way ahead/way behind so I check/call turn and reevaluate on the river. Ace is a bad card for you and I think folding is ok. If it was a brick I think calling is fine.
    • caltabiano
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      I don't put them on QQ.

      They might have a K indeed, but I just think it's unlikely.

      I really think you're often ahead. If you bet turn and get reraised, you can still fold.


      I'd want to get more information with a turn bet. I'd fold if someone started getting aggressive though.
    • TheBrood
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      HU I would be more confident in my hand, but against 2 callers, I just dont like it lol
    • caltabiano
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      A turn bet wouldn't really extract any value anyway... they wouldn't call you with worse hands. You'd basically have to take down the pot there. And you're in a sandwich position, which is not nice

      So maybe getting passive is better indeed.

      If you think Kx is in their range, their range would pretty much crush you. But if you put them on a tighter K range, such as KQ - K9, you still got some equity.