[NL2-NL10] NL10 Straight on Flushboard.

    • DaPhunk
      DaPhunk
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.03.2008 Posts: 2,805
      Party Poker $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
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      UTG: $1.70
      UTG+1: $4.40
      MP1: $3.38
      Hero (MP2): $10.91
      CO: $10.00
      BTN: $2.37
      SB: $22.30
      BB: $13.80

      Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is MP2 with 8 :heart: 9 :heart:
      1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.10, MP1 calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.10, 2 folds, SB calls $0.05, BB checks

      Flop: ($0.50) T :spade: 7 :club: 4 :club: (5 players)
      SB bets $0.40, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, Hero calls $0.40

      Turn: ($1.30) J :club: (2 players)
      SB bets $0.80, Hero calls $0.80

      River: ($2.90) 5 :heart: (2 players)
      SB bets $1.00, Hero calls $1


      Villain is 47/10. Against this guy do i have to bet Turn for protection and Valuebet River or would he only call with a Flush to do that? Did my line lose me a lot of value, this being NL10 and all. Does his Riverbet look loose enough to valueraise?
  • 3 replies
    • Kruppe
      Kruppe
      Black
      Joined: 20.02.2008 Posts: 2,144
      turn you can either call or raise.

      raise because you are nearly always ahead, as only flush beats you and flush is fairly unlikely, and he can easily have a lone club that you can protect against.

      call becausehe can easily think you were on FD on flop and now have flush, so by raising you would make him fold a lot of the time.

      river you have to raise. you pretty much have the nuts, only flush beats you, and his bet size is very small for a flush. you'll get called byy a huge amount of worse hands.
    • conall88
      conall88
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.01.2009 Posts: 1,715
      "raise because you are nearly always ahead, as only flush beats you and flush is fairly unlikely, and he can easily have a lone club that you can protect against."

      flush is more likely to hit than straight, so thats not such a great statement.

      given the stats, ive put him on a huge range obviously:

      lets say hes calling preflop with these ( clubs only to prove point, and nothing better since he'd rather raise:

      99-55,AcTc,Ac9c,Ac8c,Ac7c,KcTc,Kc9c,Kc8c,K7s,QcJc,QcTc,Qc9c,Q8s-Q7s,JcTc,Jc9c,Jc8c,Jc7c,Jc6c,Tc9c,Tc8c,Tc7c,Tc6c,9c8c,9c7c,9c6c,8c7c,8c6c,7c6c

      so any 2 clubs puts him ahead of you on a draw by about 2-1.

      (64% vs your 35% on this range post flop).

      his edge diminishes hugely if he has only one club. so I suppose there is a fair point in raising here, but make sure to fold to a reraise and also to not overbet.
    • Kruppe
      Kruppe
      Black
      Joined: 20.02.2008 Posts: 2,144
      Originally posted by conall88


      flush is more likely to hit than straight, so thats not such a great statement.

      i'm afraid that's completely irrelevant

      the point is that he doesn't very often have a flush draw, i.e. 2 clubs, on the flop. he can have all sorts of other hands.

      and flush becomes even less likely on the river.


      also, he will call ATC preflop.