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FL Bronze Beginner Coaching 08.02.2009 TerrorBlade + SoyCD

    • SoyCD
      SoyCD
      Bronze
      Joined: 20.02.2008 Posts: 6,356
      So today we had a spontaneous public private coaching with me and Terrorblade on FL 0,25/0,50. After some trouble getting the tables set up we finally got started and I ended up coaching for quite a while

      To the coaching itself: It was quite slow at the start - although I seemed to get into quite a bunch of strange spots. Terrorblade disagreed with a lot of my decisions - where I was obviously 'Value-betting' too loose - but just like in my SSS coaching I seemed to be doing it in the right spots.

      Stats:
      Hands: 414
      VPIP: 13,0
      PFR: 9,3
      AF: 3,0
      WtSD: 38,5%
      W$wsF: 41,5%
      BB/100: 16,8
      Profit $17,40


      Some of the more interesting hands to discuss (I'm a FL fish ;) ):

      In this hand I actually announced during the coaching that I would value bet the river against the opponent's JJ. Before Terrorblade could stop me, I did and villan called with JJ.

      This bet is obviously very questionable though and I'm sure a veteran FL player will be glad to explain why :)

      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $8,30
      MP3:
      $15,55
      CO:
      $22,50

      0,25/0,5 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.65 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BB with Q:spade: , Q:club:
      4 folds, MP3 calls, CO raises, 2 folds, Hero 3-bets, MP3 folds, CO calls.

      Flop: (7,40 SB) T:spade: , A:heart: , T:diamond: (2 players)
      Hero bets, CO calls.

      Turn: (4,70 BB) 2:heart: (2 players)
      Hero bets, CO calls.

      River: (6,70 BB) 8:club: (2 players)
      Hero bets, CO calls.

      Final Pot: 8,70 BB

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows two pairs, queens and tens (Qs Qc)
      CO shows two pairs, jacks and tens (Jd Js)

      Hero wins with two pairs, queens and tens (Qs Qc)

      --

      In the next hand it was ironically me that was playing "too tight". As a NL player I wanted to simply call the river against the re-raise. Terrorblade insisted I 3 bet and so I did. Villan's play is obviously horrible - and I once more took the train to value town.

      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $9,80
      BB:
      $10,00

      0,25/0,5 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.65 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is SB with Q:heart: , A:heart:
      6 folds, Hero raises, BB calls.

      Flop: (4,00 SB) K:heart: , J:diamond: , J:heart: (2 players)
      Hero bets, BB calls.

      Turn: (3,00 BB) 6:diamond: (2 players)
      Hero bets, BB calls.

      River: (5,00 BB) 8:heart: (2 players)
      Hero bets, BB raises, Hero 3-bets, BB caps, Hero calls.

      Final Pot: 13,00 BB

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows a flush, ace high (Qh Ah)
      BB shows three of a kind, jacks (Jc 4h)

      Hero wins with a flush, ace high (Qh Ah)

      ---

      I thought I was value betting against K :heart: T :spade: on the river (even though everyone in the coaching tried to keep my from doing so). I guess I'm just stubborn ;)

      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      MP2:
      $14,25
      Hero:
      $13,65
      CO:
      $6,01

      0,25/0,5 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (7 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.65 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K:spade: , Q:heart:
      MP1 folds, MP2 calls, Hero raises, CO calls, 3 folds, MP2 calls.

      Flop: (7,40 SB) J:heart: , 2:heart: , 3:heart: (3 players)
      MP2 checks, Hero bets, CO calls, MP2 folds.

      Turn: (4,70 BB) 2:spade: (2 players)
      Hero bets, CO calls.

      River: (6,70 BB) 9:diamond: (2 players)
      Hero bets, CO calls.

      Final Pot: 8,70 BB

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows a pair of deuces (Ks Qh)
      CO shows a pair of deuces (Kc 5c)

      Hero wins with a pair of deuces (Ks Qh)

      ---
      Call flop and check raise raise turn? Apparently this was the line I was supposed to take. I decided against it and was quite sure to have lost when the river card hit. Lo and behold villan who was a 76/35 maniac actually only had the flushdraw ;)


      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $14,45
      BU:
      $4,25

      0,25/0,5 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.65 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q:spade: , K:diamond:
      5 folds, Hero raises, CO folds, BU 3-bets, 2 folds, Hero calls.

      Flop: (7,40 SB) K:heart: , J:diamond: , Q:diamond: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BU bets, Hero raises, BU 3-bets, Hero caps, BU calls.

      Turn: (7,70 BB) 4:club: (2 players)
      Hero bets, BU raises, Hero 3-bets, BU caps, Hero calls.

      River: (15,70 BB) J:heart: (2 players)
      Hero bets, BU calls (All-In).

      Final Pot: 17,70 BB

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows two pairs, kings and queens (Qs Kd)
      BU shows a pair of jacks (Ad 6d)

      Hero wins with two pairs, kings and queens (Qs Kd)
  • 1 reply
    • Waiboy
      Waiboy
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.09.2008 Posts: 4,877

      Call flop and check raise raise turn? Apparently this was the line I was supposed to take. I decided against it and was quite sure to have lost when the river card hit. Lo and behold villan who was a 76/35 maniac actually only had the flushdraw ;)


      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $14,45
      BU:
      $4,25

      0,25/0,5 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.65 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q:spade: , K:diamond:
      5 folds, Hero raises, CO folds, BU 3-bets , 2 folds, Hero calls.

      Flop: (7,40 SB) K:heart: , J:diamond: , Q:diamond: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BU bets, Hero raises, BU 3-bets, Hero caps, BU calls.

      Turn: (7,70 BB) 4:club: (2 players)
      Hero bets, BU raises, Hero 3-bets, BU caps, Hero calls.

      River: (15,70 BB) J:heart: (2 players)
      Hero bets, BU calls (All-In).

      Final Pot: 17,70 BB

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows two pairs, kings and queens (Qs Kd)
      BU shows a pair of jacks (Ad 6d)

      Hero wins with two pairs, kings and queens (Qs Kd)
      Erm.. and gutshot draw to the straight. ;)

      Looks like a nice coaching... nice one Soy! :D

      BTW I would have played the pocket Qs hand the same way - villian appeared pretty agressive.. without reads can't believe he would have played Ax or a Tx this way post flop or KK this way from pre flop on and the river is an effective blank.

      Then again... I'm not a veteren FL player. Yet. :D