[NL2-NL10] BSS NL10 AA loose

    • Alan883
      Alan883
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      Joined: 03.12.2008 Posts: 1,941
      What was wrong?

      Help me please


      $0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
      8 players
      Converted at weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG africa1962 ($6.10)
      UTG+1 daynord ($3.09)
      MP1 t_kirk ($9.69)
      MP2 Deanna87 ($25.04)
      CO jarop ($10.16)
      BTN Thenark ($10.04)
      SB funky110 ($14.20)
      BB Hero ($10.10)

      Pre-flop: ($0.15, 8 players) Hero is BB A:club: A:diamond:
      africa1962 calls $0.10, 2 folds, Deanna87 calls $0.10, jarop calls $0.10, 1 fold, funky110 calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.70, africa1962 calls $0.60, Deanna87 calls $0.60, jarop folds, funky110 calls $0.60

      Flop: Q:heart: 5:club: 7:heart: ($2.90, 4 players)
      funky110 bets $1, Hero raises to $5.76, 1 fold, Deanna87 goes all-in $24.34, funky110 folds, Hero goes all-in $3.64

      Turn: T:diamond: ($37.64, 2 players)

      River: 6:spade: ($37.64, 2 players)

      Final Pot: $37.64
      Hero shows: A:club: A:diamond:
      Deanna87 shows: 5:spade: 5:heart:

      Deanna87 wins $36.51 ( won +$11.47 )
      Hero lost -$10.10
      africa1962 lost -$0.70
      jarop lost -$0.10
      funky110 lost -$1.70


      Thank you
  • 11 replies
    • radyan111
      radyan111
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      You may want to rise a little bigger preflop - 0,8$ is the standard and you can even make it 0,9$ I think cause you're out of position and there is a lot of limpers to create a limp/call chain cause every initial limper gets better odds for a call for each limper who has already called (I don't know if that makes any sense - what I mean is that when the first guy calls you, the second one has even better odds to do so, not to mention the following three).

      On the flop you raise too big this time ;) . I guess 3,5$ is enough here and you still have to call his shove, the pot is too big to leave it with your AA.

      And don't be discouraged after losing AA or KK to a set - it happens all the time and sometimes you really can't avoid it.
    • Alan883
      Alan883
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      I tried to raise to pot because of a flush draw and because of bet....i raised three times initial bet + other money in pot
    • NightFrostaSS
      NightFrostaSS
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      Preflop raise looks ok, you could add few bb because of positional disadvantage though but it should be standart for you so other wouldn't make a read on you.
      Flop i'd reraise three to four times the initial bet and fold to a push (without a read on opp) as AA is not the hand i want to play for stacks postflop. +MP2 limp/call often means small pp/post flop = set as he played weak preflop and ultra strong postflop. While it's not very nice to fold after invested so much, it's still better than lose twice.
    • Alan883
      Alan883
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      So that mean that with top pair or over pair we should not call a push....is that correct thinking??
    • TheBrood
      TheBrood
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      Stats can help you in this spot, but basically its very hard to get out of this.
      When you bet so big only better hands can continue imo
    • nafar84
      nafar84
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      Originally posted by Alan883
      So that mean that with top pair or over pair we should not call a push....is that correct thinking??
      Basically with such a family pot I am not in love with my aces anymore. I'll throw in a feeler bet/raise but fold to any serious indication of strength.

      Heads-up it's different. You can study the board and use your reads on villain to decide how you want to proceed... so it's not always an automatic fold or call to villain's shove.
    • veriz
      veriz
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      I am raising a bit smaller on flop ~$4 and folding to a bet, the guy who shove is pretty sure on two pairs or set because of the 2 times calling. Preflop representing weak hand and postflop is very active.
    • TribunCaesar
      TribunCaesar
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      I raise preflop to $0.9 to protect and build a pot. On the flop I also raise and then I am going broke. No way I am raise folding here. You just invest to much money.

      Best regards,
      TribunCaesar
    • Alan883
      Alan883
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      So my hand was played correctly??
    • TheBrood
      TheBrood
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      Originally posted by Alan883
      So my hand was played correctly??
      I would raise less on the flop and when guy shoves after so much action I might be inclined to fold if hes a good player. You only have a pair.

      As played you cant fold to shove.
    • Alan883
      Alan883
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      Look at the judges post. He thalks about his push in any case.