Swiss Spin Legend

    • Tumlex
      Tumlex
      Silver
      Joined: 04.11.2007 Posts: 696
      Hi everyone! =)

      I'm in the Spin legend team and looking to keep track of my progress :milord:
      I will post progress and impression of my journey here, once a month.
      On this first post, you'll find the graph/summary of my progress. I will update it once a month.
      I'm not a native English speaker, so feel free to put me on blast about my grammar in a private message.

      I'm a Hypnotherapist/Student :f_biggrin:

      I will not discuss particular arrangement with Spin Legend here :ayfkm:
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      Monthly reports
      First Month: let's start
      Second Month: move up to 3$
      Third Month: Internship
      Fourth Month: donk donk donk?

      Other stuffs
      Crushing the limits
      Where do you Poke?
      Finally free / Epiphany

      Time management


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      Results


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      Let's grind the 3$ :f_cool:
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    • Tumlex
      Tumlex
      Silver
      Joined: 04.11.2007 Posts: 696
      Crushing the limits

      1$


      3$
    • Tumlex
      Tumlex
      Silver
      Joined: 04.11.2007 Posts: 696
      First Month

      Time management

      I've spent a lot of time learning the strategies at first. I played a bit more at the end of the month:
      In total, I've spent roughly 40% playing :s_smile: and 60% studying :pcuser:
      the reason is simple: I'm not looking to do volume at the time, I'm looking to improve, understand the dynamic of the game and accumulating knowledge/experience.

      The 6 hours of hand reviews were a real pain in the :censored: for me, but I must admit, this is where I improved the most.
      reviewing my hands makes me consolidate a lot of things: ranges, value, thin value, speed of decision, odds understanding on the fly etc...

      The little tool of poker tracker for tagging hand is very useful. for the next month, I'll review every hand that I marked at the end of the day. I think this is a good routine to do. There are some hands that I want to ask the community about in the forum, but I'm not sure at the moment how I will proceed. I guess I will let some days pass before posting the hands, maybe I'll be able to understand the different situations myself :f_ugly:

      I don't have any routine yet about the videos. The coachings are very helpful. I'll try to attend most of them or watch the recordings.

      There is a lot of charts to learn and understand. I was not looking to blindly applying the charts, I wanted to understand them. I think this is the key to progress. Yes, I've spent more than 12 hours looking at charts :truestory:
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      Results

      What an adventure :happy:

      I use to multi-table 10-12 tables in micros, but this is so much different. I've only played one table. (ok ok, I've tried two tables ONCE :f_mad: ).

      This is super turbo, every chip count. There are values everywhere. 500chips in super turbo are worth 3 times more $ than chips in a 1500chips regular tournament 8-o

      The first big part of my journey was pre flop. So many charts. :fouet:
      Then comes the post flop strategy. At the beginning, I was contibetting to loose and not protecting enough. I did make the necessary adjustments, but there is still work to be done.

      My red line (chips won without showdown) is still a mystery to me. I'm not CB too lose (anymore), I don't bluff, I don't fold every bet... :|
      Maybe the population at those limits are so loose that they fold less.. I don't know. I can't wait to have my hands reviews, maybe an answer will come out.
      Edit: Coffeeyay says that the redline doesn't mean anything.. so I deleted it.

      I had such a wrong idea about super turbo. I was thinking "pfff, mostly push or fold".

      I've never been so wrong :yaoming:

      95 hands were tagged "bad hand" after review this month, for -2871chips. Mostly situations where I lose, but also situations where I won without getting enough value. I analyzed every single one of them.

      282 tournaments in, (yeah only 283 tournaments) and I learned so much.
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      Next month
      My volume should increase without decreasing my studying time. I make quicker decisions and I'm sure it will influence my tournaments/hour.

      I'm looking forward to making more value of good situations and less loss from losing/complicated situations.

      Maybe level up? In any case, my main objective is to improve my game, not my $ :thinking:

      See you next month!

      :sfishg: Tumlex
    • ThisGuido
      ThisGuido
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.10.2015 Posts: 24
      good luck! :f_thumbsup:
    • Rhodriguez
      Rhodriguez
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.10.2006 Posts: 421
      Wow I'm impressed. Looks so neat to punch in all the activities - and I'm a little bit jealous. Tried it once but it didn't stick. Does this really help you? Is it a tool to stay focused longer on one task and challenge yourself to slowly increase the duration of one single session (or maybe you are the opposite of me and it helps you not to overrun)? Do you do anything with this data? Yes you wrote My volume should increase without decreasing my studying time but for that you could write and schedule or a repeating to-do-list? Just curious.

      Keep the good work going and a successful June!
    • IvicaIliev77
      IvicaIliev77
      Bronze
      Joined: 31.05.2012 Posts: 4,157
      Congratulations, you are on a right road to become amazing player.
      Reading your 1st post and time management + you following through with HH analysis tells me that you are on the right road to crush.

      Will follow the blog and expect you to move up very soon stakes.

      All the best!
    • Tumlex
      Tumlex
      Silver
      Joined: 04.11.2007 Posts: 696
      Originally posted by ThisGuido
      good luck! :f_thumbsup:
      Thank you :badteeth:

      Originally posted by Rhodriguez
      Wow, I'm impressed. Looks so neat to punch in all the activities - and I'm a little bit jealous. Tried it once but it didn't stick. Does this really help you? Is it a tool to stay focused longer on one task and challenge yourself to slowly increase the duration of one single session (or maybe you are the opposite of me and it helps you not to overrun)? Do you do anything with this data? Yes you wrote My volume should increase without decreasing my studying time but for that, you could write and schedule or a repeating to-do-list? Just curious.

      Keep the good work going and a successful June!
      The main reason is that I'm kind a recovering workaholic :rage:
      It is a bit scary for me to work work work and realize that 2 days have passed without seeing anyone.
      I also track other activities (Netflix, Social life, non poker work etc...) to make sure to have a balanced life :f_pleased:
      Regarding the duration of sessions, I usually grind 1h followed by 10 minutes break. After the break, I try to test my mood :f_ugly: and if I feel that I should watch a strategy video or review hands immediately, I do that. Then my day continues by 60 minutes / 10 minutes.

      I don't do special stuff with those datas. I have some main goals like " not playing more than 60% to increase my abilities".

      Thanks for your encouragements :f_drink:

      Originally posted by IvicaIliev77
      Congratulations, you are on a right road to become amazing player.
      Reading your 1st post and time management + you following through with HH analysis tells me that you are on the right road to crush.

      Will follow the blog and expect you to move up very soon stakes.

      All the best!
      Thank you very much, I'll keep the good work :s_thumbsup:
    • YakuDzen
      YakuDzen
      Gold
      Joined: 05.03.2009 Posts: 143
      Hi, Tumlex!
      Just read you blog and filling very motivated!
      I think hard work reviewing hand and polishing the strategy will pay up for sure.

      Looking forward to read about you results at the end of the month!
      Good Luck at the Tables!!!

      PS. Now thinking about starting a blog myself =)
    • krugger3000
      krugger3000
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      Joined: 07.04.2017 Posts: 354
      I think you should probably Cbet way more ;)

      What stakes do you play?
    • Tumlex
      Tumlex
      Silver
      Joined: 04.11.2007 Posts: 696
      Originally posted by YakuDzen
      Hi, Tumlex!
      Just read you blog and filling very motivated!
      I think hard work reviewing hand and polishing the strategy will pay up for sure.

      Looking forward to read about you results at the end of the month!
      Good Luck at the Tables!!!

      PS. Now thinking about starting a blog myself =)
      Thank you! (Your blog is awesome :f_pleased: )

      Originally posted by krugger3000
      I think you should probably Cbet way more ;)

      What stakes do you play?
      What makes you think I should Cbet more? :f_rolleyes:

      I play the 3$
    • Artiom81
      Artiom81
      Bronze
      Joined: 04.07.2015 Posts: 62
      Great job,
      really enjoyed reading it.
      Gl.
    • Xanham
      Xanham
      Platinum
      Joined: 24.02.2009 Posts: 361
      Hey, good work, you're on the right track!

      What do you do for a living? I imagine it's hard to live off poker in Switzerland :)

      When I first started Spins, I was also surprised how much actual poker you can play with shallow stacks. Being in HU so often really improved my game in general.
    • Tumlex
      Tumlex
      Silver
      Joined: 04.11.2007 Posts: 696
      Originally posted by Artiom81
      Great job,
      really enjoyed reading it.
      Gl.
      Thanks :) I'm glad you enjoyed it :f_biggrin:

      Originally posted by Xanham
      Hey, good work, you're on the right track!

      What do you do for a living? I imagine it's hard to live off poker in Switzerland :)

      When I first started Spins, I was also surprised how much actual poker you can play with shallow stacks. Being in HU so often really improved my game in general.
      Thank you!

      If you want to live off poker in Switzerland you have to make a lot of money online or go to the casino.

      Unfortunately, the lowest game is 10-10 CHF NL1000 CHF. You can get a lot of money there, but this is only open at night... So bye bye social life :transpire:

      I was an independent insurance consultant and now I'm a hypnotherapist/Student.
    • Tumlex
      Tumlex
      Silver
      Joined: 04.11.2007 Posts: 696
      Second Month

      Time management


      I've spent a lot of time in the hands analysis thread at the beginning of the month. That was really time-consuming 8-o
      It was great to propose my idea, but it felt that I could improve more by watching some strategic videos instead.
      I'm not ready to fully analyze the plays of others and new strategic topics will help me.

      During the analysis parts of videos, I try to answer myself when a situation occurs. This way the "learning value" of a hand analysis is the same as a hand in a forum thread, without the big time consumption and with an immediate professional response from the coach :f_thumbsup:

      I'll probably jump in the hands section from time to time. I never posted myself :f_mad:
      This is an objective for this month. This way I'll probably respond to some hands before posting mine :f_grin:

      A new routine for hands review as started for me. I posted it in YakuDzen blog (private for SpinLegend Members)
      Ideally we should be able to go straight to the next hand, or next tournament. But sometimes, a hand get stuck in your head. This is why when it appends, I finish the tournament and review the specific hand. This is like purging my mind. I got this idea after reading a news article on pokerstrategy, saying that we should review our hand history at the end of the day. This way, we can go do something else after, without thinking about all those hands.

      Those micro breaks allow me to refocus and to not stack strange hands in my mind :f_ugly:
      So I did that :f_pleased: , and at the end of every day, I review my tagged hands. I guess I should also post hands that I'm not sure in the forum at the end of the day :f_rolleyes:

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      Results


      I've moved up to 3$ :sfishg:

      The first 218 tournaments are in 1$, I was really EV oriented at the time! which was great! But I'll talk about that in a minute :sifflote:

      I ended the 1$ limit peacefully, as you can see in the Crushing the limit post above. I made some logistical/psychological mistake though :fouet:

      The 500 tournaments mark was approaching, some new player on the SpinLegend Silver team was crushing 500 Tournament in 2 days :ayfkm: , my off day was approaching... So was a stupid Idea!

      Let's multitable to finish the 500 spins quicker!
      What a bad idea...
      I wasn't enough focused, I made some stupids mistakes.

      Lesson learned :sifflote:
      My 95 chips EV for 1$ is great, I'm proud of it, but it could have been better.

      A daily routine began to emerge:
      • A bit of forum
      • Strategic video
      • Small break
      • Grind
        (repeat as much Grind/small break as possible
      • Hands review
      • Forum

      This way I can start my mind with some news, grab/enforce strategic concept, grind and finally purge my mind of strange hands by reviewing them :megusta:

      116 hands were tagged "bad hand" after review this month, for -6810chips.
      37 hands where I could have get more value
      79 hands where I have lost more than I should

      Since I implement more move in my game, I took some wrong decisions.

      I've started to steal pot at the right time and get more value out of strong hands.

      So of course, sometimes my steal where wrong :ayfkm: , and sometimes I was too greedy with my value bets :facepalm:

      My start in 3$ was very swingy :why:
      A lot of cooler and stupid situation. I was so frustrated to do the right play and lose a ton of EV! Yes, I know that I should get the maximum EV of every situation, but I was so obsessed with that... An all-in pre flop with KK vs AA was nothing to me when I wasn't focusing on chipsEV. But know, I was so pissed!!!

      I used to think: If your EV is correct, you're correct.
      My new mindset for the next month is: make the most profitable decision at every moment, the EV is just collateral.

      I learned a lot! Enough to know how much I still have to learn :challenge:
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      Next month

      I'll have to do some sort of internship for my studies. 11 days 24/7 with children in a handicap situation. I'll be on guard 24/7, so I won't be able to play during those days :|
      I can't afford to be interrupted during a tournament. So I'll focus on watching videos at the end of the day.

      My objectives:
      • Be more steady in my routines
      • Post some hands in the forum
      • Be oriented on doing the best play
      • Not be affected when I made the right play with an unfortunate EV
      • whip YakuDzen if he looks too much at his graph

      See you next month!

      :sfishg: Tumlex

      P.S overall graph/time management on the first post updated + graph by limit added on the second post
    • YakuDzen
      YakuDzen
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      Joined: 05.03.2009 Posts: 143
      Tumlex,
      Great Graph and stats!!!
      (If i can't look at mine, i look at graphs and stats of others :f_p: )
      Great work last month!!! Keep Crushing!!!

      I look at time management report (which is awesome by the way) and I think i must spent more time on videos! Thanks!

      And Thanks for the program!
      I realise just now that it was developed by professional psychiatrist!!! :f_ugly:

      I used to think: If your EV is correct, you're correct.
      My new mindset for the next month is: make the most profitable decision at every moment, the EV is just collateral.
      Make a most profitable decision and make the most +EV decision isn't it the same thing?
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    • Tumlex
      Tumlex
      Silver
      Joined: 04.11.2007 Posts: 696
      Thank you for your encouragements :f_biggrin:

      Originally posted by YakuDzen
      I used to think: If your EV is correct, you're correct.
      My new mindset for the next month is: make the most profitable decision at every moment, the EV is just collateral.
      Make a most profitable decision and make the most +EV decision isn't it the same thing?
      This is just a mind trick. When I push or make a correct move and I see that I was behind, I'm not happy with my play :f_mad:
      But I should! I've done the right play, at the right time! This is just some variance, I was in the thin part of the range of villain where I was behind.

      I want to be happy with my right plays. Focusing on EV alone doesn't (always) make my happy with my right plays :f_ugly:

      This is not because I don't look at my graph that I don't see it in my mind xD

      I don't only want to not look at my graph, I want to not think about it at all. This is a distraction.
      When I think about the EV of the last decision, I don't think about the next hand.

      With my background (poker/life/job), I know that I tend to focus on math and the psychology/mental state of the villain, less on mine. So I'm very careful with that.

      But of course, I try to get the most EV of every situation. I put it differently in my mind. Something like "get the most value of every hand". Because EV is directly correlated to the graph for me, and I want to remove this distraction.

      I hope That I answered your question :f_biggrin:
    • Xanham
      Xanham
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      Joined: 24.02.2009 Posts: 361
      What software do you use for time tracking (and the nice graphics)? I've been looking for a good one for a while. I want ease of use and little overhead when using it (complex setup / configuration is not a problem).
    • Tumlex
      Tumlex
      Silver
      Joined: 04.11.2007 Posts: 696
      https://www.hoursforteams.com

      It's 80$/year

      I also use it to track sport etc..

      Easy to use and you even get an IOS app.

      There is a month free trial if you want ;)
    • YakuDzen
      YakuDzen
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      Joined: 05.03.2009 Posts: 143
      Originally posted by Tumlex
      This is just a mind trick. When I push or make a correct move and I see that I was behind, I'm not happy with my play :f_mad:
      But I should! I've done the right play, at the right time! This is just some variance, I was in the thin part of the range of vilain where I was behind.

      I want to be happy with my right plays. Focusing on EV alone doesn't (always) make my happy with my right plays :f_ugly:

      This is not because I don't look at my graph that I dont see it in my mind xD

      I don't only want to not look at my graph, I want to not think about it at all. This is a distraction.
      When I think about the EV of the last decision, I don't think about the next hand.

      With my background (poker/life/job), I know that I tend to focus on math and the psychology/mental state of the vilain, less on mine. So I'm very careful with that.

      But of course, I try to get the most EV of every situation. I put it differently in my mind. Something like "get the most value of every hand". Because EV is directly correlated to the graph for me, and I want to remove this distraction.

      I hope That I answered your question :f_biggrin:
      I think I get it :thinking:
      And the opposite. When I shove and see that it was -EV and then lucky win the spin - I feel not happy at all, becouse it negatively affect my graph. And this felling can affect next spin also. That's not right also.
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