[NL2-NL10] A few samples of KK.

    • Smileyphil
      Smileyphil
      Bronze
      Joined: 28.10.2008 Posts: 488
      Having a few issues with KK. It seems I either win a small pot or I get crushed by Aces. Here are a few sample hands from last few days. Is there anyway I could've avoided this or pulled in more money from the kings?

      The losers:

      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      MP2:
      $9.50
      Hero:
      $2.25

      0.05/0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is CO with K:diamond: , K:club:
      3 folds, MP2 raises to $0.30, MP3 folds, Hero raises to $2.25 (All-In), 3 folds, MP2 calls $1.95.

      Flop: ($4.65) J:heart: , 9:diamond: , A:spade:
      Turn: ($4.65) 2:club:
      River: ($4.65) J:club: (1 players)


      Final Pot: $4.65

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows two pairs, kings and jacks (Kd Kc)
      MP2 shows a full-house, aces full of jacks (Ac Ad)

      MP2 wins with a full-house, aces full of jacks (Ac Ad)

      Loser 2:

      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      MP2:
      $13.05
      Hero:
      $9.65

      0.05/0.1 Pot-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BU with K:heart: , K:diamond:
      3 folds, MP2 raises to $0.30, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.90, 2 folds, MP2 raises to $2.40, Hero raises to $7.35, MP2 raises to $12.30, Hero calls $2.30 (All-In), MP2 gets uncalled bet back.

      Flop: ($19.45) 4:heart: , 8:heart: , 6:club:
      Turn: ($19.45) 4:club:
      River: ($19.45) 6:diamond: (1 players)


      Final Pot: $19.45

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows two pairs, kings and sixes (Kh Kd)
      MP2 shows two pairs, aces and sixes (As Ah)

      MP2 wins with two pairs, aces and sixes (As Ah)


      And the winnings!

      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      UTG2:
      $10.00
      Hero:
      $10.15

      0.05/0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BU with K:club: , K:diamond:
      UTG1 folds, UTG2 raises to $0.20, 4 folds, Hero raises to $0.80, 2 folds, UTG2 calls $0.60.

      Flop: ($1.75) 8:heart: , 7:heart: , 8:spade: (2 players)
      UTG2 checks, Hero bets $1.40, UTG2 folds, Hero gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $1.75

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows two pairs, kings and eights (Kc Kd)

      Hero wins with two pairs, kings and eights (Kc Kd)

      Winning 2:

      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $8.45
      MP3:
      $6.35
      CO:
      $4.30

      0.05/0.1 Pot-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BB with K:diamond: , K:spade:
      MP3 calls $0.10, CO raises to $0.45, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, 2 folds, Hero gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $1.05

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows a pair of kings (Kd Ks)

      Hero wins with a pair of kings (Kd Ks)


      I'm mostly concerned with the bet amounts and any way I could've seen the Aces coming. I suspect this is just bad luck but my kings over admittedly quite a small sample have a negative EV! Which is not good.
  • 4 replies
    • radyan111
      radyan111
      Bronze
      Joined: 03.07.2008 Posts: 1,151
      Always rebuy to maximum when playing big stack.

      You can't do anything about losing KK vs AA in a preflop all-in - that just happens. You'll bust others' kings with the aces of your own just as many times as you lose your kings to their aces.

      Bet sizing is correct in every hand I think - nice hands imo.
    • Smileyphil
      Smileyphil
      Bronze
      Joined: 28.10.2008 Posts: 488
      My bad I think first one may have been from a SSS moment. When do you recommend rebuying? I would tend to rebuy if I go below $8ish? Does it really matter when I rebuy as long as I remember to only speculate with enough implied cash around?
    • radyan111
      radyan111
      Bronze
      Joined: 03.07.2008 Posts: 1,151
      I recommend to turn on the auto rebuy function if your site has it.

      It's always good to play with full stack, even if you've lost only few cents. Thats because you want to win as much as you possibly can with your monsters when you're gonna play for stacks.
    • darkonebg
      darkonebg
      Headadmin
      Headadmin
      Joined: 17.01.2008 Posts: 9,508
      Originally posted by radyan111
      Always rebuy to maximum when playing big stack.

      You can't do anything about losing KK vs AA in a preflop all-in - that just happens. You'll bust others' kings with the aces of your own just as many times as you lose your kings to their aces.

      Bet sizing is correct in every hand I think - nice hands imo.
      It's always good to play with full stack, even if you've lost only few cents. Thats because you want to win as much as you possibly can with your monsters when you're gonna play for stacks.
      Indeed.