PokerStars VIP Changes

    • toedder
      toedder
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      Joined: 27.11.2007 Posts: 215
      PokerStars is about to change their VIP system (source: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/vip-changes-pokerstars-411086/):

      VIP program changes:

      SilverStar VIP level will be lowered to 1,200 VPPs a month.
      GoldStar VIP level will be lowered to 3,000 VPPs a month.
      PlatinumStar VIP level will be lowered to 7,500 VPPs a month.

      Supernova and Supernova Elite players will be able to retain their status
      the following year until end of September provided they meet the current
      play requirements. This will start now for the 2008 SN and SNEs.

      Milestone bonuses will become cash credits. This means once a player hits
      200,000 VPPs for 2009 he will be able to obtain a $2,000 cash credit for
      50,000 FPPs, without a need to earn further 10,000 VPPs. That is not fully
      automated yet, but we plan to enable players to buy these bonuses directly
      from the VIP Store, so there won't be a need to wait for processing of the
      bonuses as we have it now.

      The $50,000 VIP weekly event will become a $75,000 event with 12 minute
      blinds.

      The $20,000 VIP weekly event will become a $30,000 weekly event.

      Concierge will change slightly. Changes include a player may only use the
      service once a month with a max of three receipts. We will have clear
      rules for what may be submitted on the website by end of February.

      All of the above changes will take place starting March 1st, 2009. Not
      promising, but we may introduce further changes later in the year. Keep the
      ideas coming.

      Scotty
  • 20 replies
    • redskwerl
      redskwerl
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      Joined: 03.03.2008 Posts: 3,802
      this is great! nh pokerstars
    • opal99
      opal99
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      Joined: 05.02.2008 Posts: 8,270
      Nice changes even not as great as was expected...

      7500 VPP for PlatinumStar is great change indeed and extending period to retain SN & SNE status is probably even better. :)

      But who really cares about cancelling 10k VPP requirement for milestone bonuses... If you are able to reach 200k+ VPP per year, additional 10k is not important imo :rolleyes:

      Thank you toedder for letting us know!
    • Anssi
      Anssi
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      Joined: 03.07.2008 Posts: 2,173
      Now if they only would have another level between Supernova and Supernova Elite, I'd be a happy camper. At the current rate I will make about 20k points a month.
    • opal99
      opal99
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      Joined: 05.02.2008 Posts: 8,270
      Originally posted by Anssi
      Now if they only would have another level between Supernova and Supernova Elite, I'd be a happy camper.
      #2
    • Zheelvern
      Zheelvern
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      Joined: 29.10.2007 Posts: 704
      It was a time!!
      After they said "soon" 11 months ago, lol.
    • cannell555
      cannell555
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      Joined: 06.03.2008 Posts: 2,410
      These are great changes imo. Every change they have announced in that statement is good, so weres the bad? Surely they must be making another part worse?
    • Pirokunn
      Pirokunn
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      Joined: 17.01.2009 Posts: 148
      Originally posted by Anssi
      Now if they only would have another level between Supernova and Supernova Elite, I'd be a happy camper. At the current rate I will make about 20k points a month.
      Supernova Pro 300000 VPP / year, FPP multiplier 4 :P
    • CoreySteel
      CoreySteel
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      Joined: 25.10.2006 Posts: 3,366
      Wow, great changes... Now I really have to start playing again :D

      BTW...
      200k milestone... It has to be made in 1 year, right?
    • opal99
      opal99
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      Joined: 05.02.2008 Posts: 8,270
      Originally posted by CoreySteel
      Wow, great changes... Now I really have to start playing again :D

      BTW...
      200k milestone... It has to be made in 1 year, right?
      yes; you're right: http://www.pokerstars.com/vip/supernova/#MRB
    • redskwerl
      redskwerl
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      Joined: 03.03.2008 Posts: 3,802
      yes, VPPs reset every year



      now they only need to add partial vpps and low limit players will be satisfied :)
    • CoreySteel
      CoreySteel
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      Joined: 25.10.2006 Posts: 3,366
      Bah... I was looking for that line and couldn't find it! I even read this page but never at the most MOST bottom :)
    • opal99
      opal99
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      Joined: 05.02.2008 Posts: 8,270
      Originally posted by redskwerl
      now they only need to add partial vpps and low limit players will be satisfied :)
      That won't happen ever...

      PokerStars doesn't care too much about microlimit players, because they (players) don't give a fuck about such promotions the most of the time. Sure, there're some serious players who are moving up he limits, but 95% of the rest are just recreational players who like to spend time with poker. They have no idea how FPP's system works, how do they recieve FPPs and many of them didn't even realize they recieve anything at all....

      Let's look at this as at some kind of motivation to move up faster :)
    • TFMonty
      TFMonty
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      Joined: 17.04.2008 Posts: 126
      i must admit i havent read the promo info properly.................

      VPP and FPP 2 different things?

      VPP= from rake, and is used for clearing bonus and moving up the levels

      FPP= used for tournament entry etc and stuff from the store, subject to a bonus multiplier from your level

      Is that about right?

      Or does the silver thing mean its easier to get to gold as you have the multiplier?
    • opal99
      opal99
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      Joined: 05.02.2008 Posts: 8,270
      hi TFMonty;

      VPP (so called "base FPP") are counted from rake but they have no other value than identifying your VIP level - you can't use them.

      FPP are frequent player points and are derived from VPP. If you're bronze your FPP = VPP,
      you get 1.5 FPP / 1 VPP as silver,
      2 FPP / 1 VPP as gold,
      2.5 FPP / 1 VPP as Platinum,
      3.5 FPP / 1 VPP as SN and
      5 FPP / 1 VPP s SNE

      FPP are points tham can be redeemed for cash bonuses, items from PS shop, buyins to tournaments etc.
      They won't help you to reach higher VIP level faster, because they are not related to that at all.
    • TFMonty
      TFMonty
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      Joined: 17.04.2008 Posts: 126
      ty, was what i thought, only became an issue a couple of days ago when i got up to silver, prob wont make gold this month, but hopefully next with the lower targets
    • pareto
      pareto
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      Joined: 01.11.2008 Posts: 28
      Originally posted by opal99
      hi TFMonty;

      VPP (so called "base FPP") are counted from rake but they have no other value than identifying your VIP level - you can't use them.

      FPP are frequent player points and are derived from VPP. If you're bronze your FPP = VPP,
      you get 1.5 FPP / 1 VPP as silver,
      2 FPP / 1 VPP as gold,
      2.5 FPP / 1 VPP as Platinum,
      3.5 FPP / 1 VPP as SN and
      5 FPP / 1 VPP s SNE

      FPP are points tham can be redeemed for cash bonuses, items from PS shop, buyins to tournaments etc.
      They won't help you to reach higher VIP level faster, because they are not related to that at all.
      A new player playing at PS starts with bronze:
      If I achieve 1000 VPP in Feb
      and 2000 VPP in March (silver),
      then at the end would I get 1.5(1000+2000) = 4500 FPP??
      Or would it be 1000+1.5(2000) = 4000 FPP since I was bronze in Feb ?
    • Joronamo
      Joronamo
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      Joined: 17.10.2008 Posts: 649
      Hi,

      Nice changes. I'm probably one of the few micro players that takes poker seriously. Quick question what is SN and SNEs?
    • AndySk
      AndySk
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      Joined: 06.12.2007 Posts: 174
      I think

      SuperNova , SuperNova Elite ?
    • opal99
      opal99
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      Joined: 05.02.2008 Posts: 8,270
      Originally posted by pareto
      A new player playing at PS starts with bronze:
      If I achieve 1000 VPP in Feb
      and 2000 VPP in March (silver),
      then at the end would I get 1.5(1000+2000) = 4500 FPP??
      Or would it be 1000+1.5(2000) = 4000 FPP since I was bronze in Feb ?
      not really:

      February: if you achieve 1000 VPP, you get 1000 FPP
      March: your monthly VPP are reset, so if you earn 2000 VPP, you get 1500x1 + 500x1.5 = 2250
      -----------------------
      3250 FPP in 2 months


      But, because you were silver in March, you'll start next month as Silver too, so if you achieve 2000 VPP again in April, you get 2000*1.5 = 3000 FPP that month.

      Originally posted by Joronamo
      Quick question what is SN and SNEs?
      Andy is right:
      SN = Supernova
      SNE = Supernova Elite
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