Strange start with suited broadways

    • pdfbq
      pdfbq
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      Joined: 23.05.2008 Posts: 37
      Hi all, I have these for me strange stats afte 50K hands. (can not beat the rake though :f_frown: ).

      Anybody out there understands why my suited cards perform worse?? Too small of a sample? 50K is not nothing I guess.

      code:
      Hand	Hands	VPIP	PFR	 My C Won
      AKs	155	100.00	87.58	 1,41
      AQs	142	98.56	82.01	 3,70
      AJs	159	95.36	71.52	-0,47
      ATs	147	93.75	63.19	 0,04
      				 4,68
      				
      AKo	425	98.79	92.21	19,16
      AQo	448	96.29	84.69	 1,26
      AJo	422	82.81	69.49	 6,30
      ATo	399	76.98	69.57	 6,44
      				33,16
      
  • 3 replies
    • la55i
      la55i
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      Joined: 27.01.2013 Posts: 6,560
      Too small sample. It is also possible that you chase draws stupidly and lose more money that way :)
    • pdfbq
      pdfbq
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      Joined: 23.05.2008 Posts: 37
      Hmmm interesting tnx! I will check my history.

      One more question though.... when do you guys start seeing sample sizes as not 'too small' :f_biggrin: ?

      That is four months of playing poker...
    • la55i
      la55i
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      when do you guys start seeing sample sizes as not 'too small' :f_biggrin: ?
      Great question :f_biggrin:
      Here you have only around 150 hands of those suited broadways. In this sample one or two bad beats will destroy the winrate of that hand.
      And as you can see in your off-suit hands, AQo has lower winrate than ATo and that doesn't make much sense, so there is variance in 450 hands too. I guess you would need thousands.

      A coach once said that one way of constructing pre-flop ranges is to check what hands are profitable, but this requires a huge database.