[NL50] Flop CR w/ TPOK

    • cardinhand
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      Is anyone stacking off here ever? Opponent is: 32/5 with 52% Agg (55 hands).

      Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD Poker HUD & Database

      NL Holdem $0.50(BB)
      UTG ($89.72)
      HJ ($40.06)
      CO ($52.8)
      HERO ($74.13)
      SB ($63.25)
      BB ($24.48)

      Dealt to Hero Q:club: T:club:

      UTG Folds, HJ Calls $0.5 (Rem. Stack: 39.56), CO Folds, HERO Raises To $2 (Rem. Stack: 72.13), SB Folds, BB Calls $1.5 (Rem. Stack: 22.48), HJ Calls $1.5 (Rem. Stack: 38.06)

      Flop ($6.25) 6:spade: 2:spade: Q:heart:
      BB Checks, HJ Checks, HERO Bets $3.62 (Rem. Stack: 68.51), BB Folds, HJ Raises To $17.11 (Rem. Stack: 20.95), HERO Folds
  • 9 replies
    • Fanko
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      Seems like a fold to me. Even vs his draws you are mostly flipping and vs made hands like AQ/KQ/Q6/Q2/66/22 our hand is very much behind. I would personally wait for a better spot to get them money in and try to see if he attacks such flops with weaker hands. Readless is a fold imho.
    • la55i
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      I agree with a fold. He looks recreational and can have pretty much anything. You have TPGK and thats it. Quite small chances to improve your hand.
    • cardinhand
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      Yeah, i guess your both right. but with that high agg i think he had a big chance of bluffing, i just didnt have the heart to check.
    • la55i
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      You can't base your play on stats only especially if you have a small sample and no other info about the player. You also must know what the stats mean exactly and be able to interpret those in light of other stats too..

      This guy could be one of those who limp calls pre a lot and then minbet donks a lot. I have seen many recreational players who just donk 1bb every street and give up when they face a raise. Those would have very high agg%.
    • cardinhand
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      Originally posted by la55i
      You can't base your play on stats only especially if you have a small sample and no other info about the player.
      If had more than hundred hands with this guy, maybe i would have called. but as of this hand, the smart thing i could do was fold.
    • la55i
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      I think 100 hands will give you pretty reliable info on his VPIP/PFR but for 3bet stats and any postflop stat it still is quite small.

      Let's take an example.. You have 100 hands on a villain who has 30/10 vpip pfr (clearly a recreational based on the stats) and he raises you preflop. You call. Then he cbets flop and you see his flop cbet% is 100.
      If you had for example JJ in AQ2r board, what would you do? Would you somehow exploit his super high cbet%?
    • cardinhand
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      Originally posted by la55i
      I think 100 hands will give you pretty reliable info on his VPIP/PFR but for 3bet stats and any postflop stat it still is quite small.

      Let's take an example.. You have 100 hands on a villain who has 30/10 vpip pfr (clearly a recreational based on the stats) and he raises you preflop. You call. Then he cbets flop and you see his flop cbet% is 100.
      If you had for example JJ in AQ2r board, what would you do? Would you somehow exploit his super high cbet%?
      Thats a tricky situation.. i would probably fold..
    • la55i
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      Yup. The point of that example was that we can't start doing stuff even if we see a stat like cbet 100%. He still opens super tight and has seen only 10 flops as pre flop aggressor.
    • cardinhand
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      I see your point but if i had Ax i would have called :)