[NL2] Call because good odds ? Or fold because we are often beaten ?

    • diminem99
      diminem99
      Bronze
      Joined: 06.04.2015 Posts: 55
      Hi guys,

      Here I don't know if that is a call because of the good odds, or a fold because we are often beaten.

      I eliminate the possibility of a 10, because he would bet it on the Turn. So I'm thinking about a Q or a slowplayed set, or air.

      What do you think?

      PokerStars - €0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      SB: 62 BB (VPIP: 70.00, PFR: 40.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
      BB: 77.5 BB
      UTG: 229 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 25)
      MP: 104 BB (VPIP: 25.76, PFR: 13.64, 3Bet Preflop: 4.55, Hands: 68)
      Hero (CO): 100 BB
      BTN: 40 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 5.56, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)

      SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9:club: A:spade:

      fold, fold, Hero raises to 3.5 BB, fold, SB calls 3 BB, fold

      Flop: (8 BB, 2 players) 9:heart: 7:diamond: T:club:
      SB bets 4 BB, Hero calls 4 BB

      Turn: (16 BB, 2 players) 2:club:
      SB checks, Hero bets 10 BB, SB calls 10 BB

      River: (36 BB, 2 players) Q:diamond:
      SB bets 17 BB
  • 2 replies
    • TurokRider
      TurokRider
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.10.2011 Posts: 94
      For starters I would open with 3BB from CO. no need to go bigger.
      I would raise his donkbet OTF. We have only middle pair, we need info and we can rep an overpair.
      I don't see much value in calling, we might already been beat or up aganst a strong draw.
      If he calls the raise I'm done with the hand.

      OTT, I would check behind. we have showdown value

      River is a fold for me
    • la55i
      la55i
      Moderator
      Moderator
      Joined: 27.01.2013 Posts: 6,890
      For starters I would open with 3BB from CO.
      I think as a standard we could bet even 2.5bb. But here we seem to have a lot of recreational players behind so opening bigger might be justified.

      I would raise his donkbet OTF. We have only middle pair, we need info and we can rep an overpair.
      I think it is bad to get induced by his donkbet and start raising with hands that would normally be really bad raises. We have small chances to improve if we are behind. We can't raise purely for value. And raising just for info is not good. We can just call here and probably call many turns too and hope he slows down OTR.

      OTT, I would check behind.
      This type of villain can donk the flop with a wide range. By betting we might be able to fold out some trash that still has equity against us and also get some calls from weaker hands and draws. With a bet we also might buy ourselves a free showdown.

      River is a fold for me
      I agree with this. Villains line looks strong and I think this river donk is very rarely a bluff. We can fold here.