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[NL20-NL50] NL50 huge pot again JUDGE THIS PLEASE

    • Talic
      Talic
      Bronze
      Joined: 04.01.2008 Posts: 1,851
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
      SB ($56)
      BB ($65.58)
      UTG ($197)
      UTG+1 ($36.32)
      CO ($50)
      Hero ($139)

      Dealt to Hero A:spade: K:heart:

      UTG raises to $2, fold, CO calls $2, Hero raises to $8, fold, fold, UTG calls $6, CO calls $6,

      FLOP ($24.75) 2:diamond: K:spade: 8:spade:

      UTG bets $17.14, CO calls $17.14, Hero raises to $59.06, UTG raises to $189, CO calls $24.86, Hero calls $72.18,

      TURN ($329) 2:diamond: K:spade: 8:spade: A:heart:



      RIVER ($329) 2:diamond: K:spade: 8:spade: A:heart: Q:heart:

      UTG is TAG 17/13/6 3bet/ 6.5AF
      CO is fish 53/26 1.5AF
  • 6 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      I am folding here to the UTG big raise, most of the time he will show you a set here and if you are lucky then you split pot with him both AK.
    • Talic
      Talic
      Bronze
      Joined: 04.01.2008 Posts: 1,851
      Originally posted by veriz
      I am folding here to the UTG big raise, most of the time he will show you a set here and if you are lucky then you split pot with him both AK.
      we are deep but 3bet pot is still 3bet pot, I was unlucky that the fish did have set thats for sure actually I thought that UTG missplayed AK and that fish has 2 random cards
    • Michailewic
      Michailewic
      Bronze
      Joined: 28.04.2008 Posts: 1,418
      Originally posted by Talic
      we are deep but 3bet pot is still 3bet pot
      Still, UTG had good implies to call 3-bet preflop for set value.

      Do you thing that UTG (as TAG) would donk with TPTK? With flush draw, maybe, however, he would not call 3-bet hoping for flush draw. I do not think that UTG would risk his $272BB just with flush draw, maybe with nut flush draw and TPTK, however, this hand is not possible on such a flop.

      I think that If UTG had AK he would have c/r on the flop.

      What hands would UTG be willing to go broke so deep? I think that at the best case scenario you can hope for a split (if at all).
    • csnmf
      csnmf
      Global
      Joined: 22.11.2006 Posts: 444
      Don't post results, it can affect people's advice.

      Personally i would squeeze to a little bit more as we are deep. When you put in the raise you have put in half your stack so i don't really see how we can fold, even though since UTG isn't a fish i can't see how we are ever ahead here. Will do the maths and exclude the 3rd person for simplicity, I don't think he would play the nut flush draw this quick this deep so i didn't include it in the calculation, I also don't think he would be slowplaying AA, maybe KK if he's nitty.

      equity win tie pots won pots tied
      Hand 0: 28.649% 04.97% 23.67% 591 2812.50 { AsKh }
      Hand 1: 71.351% 47.68% 23.67% 5664 2812.50 { 88, 22, AKs, AKo }

      we are calling $72 to win (8+8)pf+flop(17.14+59.06+72.18)=164.38

      72/164.38=43.8% so i guess it's a fold, even with your half your stack, assuming what i calculated was correct. Usually i don't like playing this deep for situations just like this unless the guy is a fish.
    • erptech
      erptech
      Silver
      Joined: 15.03.2008 Posts: 659
      I raise to 10$ pre, call flop, reevaluate turn.
      As played, fold to shove.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      I like just calling on the flop, he would lead there mostly with monster draws and sets and you´re not doing fine neither of hands.
      Once he bet strong again on the turn you can fold ui.