[NL2] KK outranged

    • Klausen16
      Klausen16
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      Joined: 12.04.2013 Posts: 356
      Hi guys,

      most interesting hand of my morning grind:


      Hero (UTG): 110 BB
      MP: 125.5 BB (VPIP: 26.47, PFR: 20.59, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 70)
      CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 28.15, PFR: 21.48, 3Bet Preflop: 1.69, Hands: 140)
      BTN: 123 BB (VPIP: 24.04, PFR: 8.65, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 109)
      SB: 121 BB (VPIP: 23.42, PFR: 20.89, 3Bet Preflop: 15.25, Hands: 160)
      BB: 94.5 BB (VPIP: 18.00, PFR: 8.00, 3Bet Preflop: 13.64, Hands: 52)

      SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K:diamond: K:club:

      Hero raises to 3 BB, MP raises to 10 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 17 BB, MP calls 7 BB

      Preflop I miss-sized my reraise -> normal I go like 25 BB here instead of 17.

      Flop: (35.5 BB, 2 players) J:diamond: T:diamond: Q:spade:
      Hero bets 26.5 BB, MP calls 26.5 BB

      Turn: (88.5 BB, 2 players) K:heart:
      [color=red]Hero...

      So this is really shitty for me because his range smells that hard like AX that I thought it is a 100% fold here. I just can bet my rest chips or give up. If I do not bet here -> he will bet anyway. Maybe it is better to check call here to make him play with a little wider range. But not sure about it and I think on this point both of us are more or less done with the hand and I can not stop going all in.

      How ever I checked this out and gave him a range on turn like:


      If i make it tighter:


      Both looks like an 100% call now ... so I really need ur option about it :D

      Thanks for ur thoughts here! :f_drink:
  • 4 replies
    • MyFloXyBabY
      MyFloXyBabY
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      Joined: 15.02.2010 Posts: 2,602
      The real question to me is what are you cbeting for flop ?
      Quite about everything that a 26-20-6 guy flat call a 4bet from UTG with has hit on a QJT flop (AK, QQ, JJ, eventually TT).
    • xkwlx
      xkwlx
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      Joined: 06.04.2011 Posts: 486
      Exacly for my its Check call on the flop and decide Turn
    • SDK1987
      SDK1987
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      Joined: 12.11.2008 Posts: 33,440
      It’s too bad you make a miss click with the 4bet sizing. Now he will call his entire range and his range is now wider than normal, but this board hit’s his range extreme hard with sets and straight possibilities and I would most likely call 1 street and give up on most turns.

      The turn card is now tricky as well, because our set could be easy beat now and we beat all his sets and I would most likely check/call and hopefully we can hit a full house on the river.

      Cheers,
      SDK1987
    • MisterSnS
      MisterSnS
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      Joined: 09.11.2011 Posts: 1,748
      Pretty easy.

      His 4bet calling-range consists of: JJ-QQ (sometimes AA), and AK, maybe AQs. vs that range we don't have a valuebet, but can call a small bet when we check to Villain. I would probably even fold vs 1/2 pot because we need enough implieds when we hit, and we probably don't have any because an A can give us a split, and a 9 would completely kill the action