[NL20-NL50] NL30 SH, monster line?

    • Katavich
      Katavich
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      Joined: 16.07.2008 Posts: 176
      $0.15/$0.30 No Limit Holdem
      4 players
      Converted at weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      CO Hero ($49.69)
      BTN tomys666 ($33.45)
      SB Mike2301 ($36.92)
      BB kallenavn007 ($22.43)

      Pre-flop: ($0.45, 4 players) Hero is CO 8:club: A:heart:
      Hero bets $1.20, 2 folds, kallenavn007 bets $1.80, Hero calls $0.90.

      Flop: 2:club: 5:club: 8:heart: ($4.35, 2 players)
      kallenavn007 checks, Hero bets $2.70, kallenavn007 bets $5.40, Hero calls $2.70.

      Turn: 2:spade: ($15.15, 2 players)
      kallenavn007 bets $7.50, Hero folds

      Final Pot: $22.65
      Hero shows: 8:club: A:heart:

      kallenavn007 wins $21.90 ( won $6.90 )
      Hero lost -$7.50


      minraise preflop, check minraise flop. 1/2 pot bet on turn. It looks like KK+ to me, what do you think?
  • 5 replies
    • BogdanDin7
      BogdanDin7
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      Would have fold pre-flop I think.
      As played would have folded to minraise on flop.
    • Katavich
      Katavich
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      Originally posted by BogdanDin7
      Would have fold pre-flop I think.
      As played would have folded to minraise on flop.
      This is 5max, in this hand with 4 players. with 4 players I can't fold A8 preflop
    • aciddrop
      aciddrop
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      I agree you can't fold preflop. The minraise could be a monster, but you have to know your specific opponent to have a read on that.

      C/R the flop also looks strong, but again, a tricky player can be playing games on this flop. Rather than call, you can 3bet/fold for a small amount, but only where you know he can be playing here.

      He doesn't need an overpair to do this, he can have overcards, straight or flush draws, so you need to make a decision on the flop. He is pretty much betting any turn once he raises the flop, so there isn't any point to a call if you are going to fold, he doesn't have enough behind in order to get value if you hit another 8.

      Did you know his AF etc during the game?
    • Katavich
      Katavich
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      59 hands
      AF: 2.57, WTSD: 29

      They rearly bets missed flush draw on turn at this limits. I have watched his hands and I noticed that he only bets when he has a hand. He had 2 hands with flush draw on flop, one bet/call second bet, both missed on turn and he only called/checked the turn.

      I am now more sure that he had an hand, maybe set or overpair.
    • aciddrop
      aciddrop
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      In that case, folding the flop minraise is correct.