6674ds facing 3b oop

    • Tim64
      Tim64
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      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 7,844
      Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
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      SB: $197.02 (197 bb)
      BB: $768.71 (768.7 bb)
      Hero (MP): $273.01 (273 bb)
      CO: $100.40 (100.4 bb)
      BTN: $83.43 (83.4 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP with :4s: :7c: :6c: :6s:
      Hero raises to $3.50, CO folds, BTN raises to $12, 2 folds, Hero calls $8.50

      Flop: ($25.50) :Qd: :8s: :2c: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN bets $18, Hero calls $18

      Turn: ($61.50) :5s: (2 players)
      Hero bets $59, BTN calls $53.43 and is all-in

      River: ($168.36) :4c: (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Open seems borderline to me from HJ - is it just bad?
      BU is a rec. 47/50, 19 hands. No info on 3b range.

      1. My first thought was how well I played this hand, because he actually had very weak hand and called off ott with only 35% eq.
      2. However, on studying, it looks like only about 12 cards (30%) will give me a hand with 32% equity against ~10% 3b range (assuming I have no feq when shoving).

      Does that mean my flop float is just too thin, or is the problem elsewhere or is everything fine after all.

      Vilain had :Ah: :6h: :6d: :4d:

      3. How much latitude should you give recs for turning up with rather unexpected range? What does this do to our pre and postflop planning?

      Thanks
  • 4 replies
    • Kyyberi
      Kyyberi
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      Joined: 09.07.2010 Posts: 10,916
      Not too loose in a vacuum, goes into standard MP range. Thing is, you have pretty aggressive rec in the BTN who likely doesn't give up that easily preflop or postflop. Against that player your hand loses a bit of it's value.

      On the flop you are only drawing to have enough equity to make marginally +EV action on the turn. Overall that is -EV. If you can get it in on the turn with avg equity of 45%, that would be breakeven. You can't as you are folding on most turns and the rest your avg equity is far from 45%.

      Fold flop. And make not that opponents really doesn't like folding, and start to play value poker. :)
    • SeagalSteven
      SeagalSteven
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      Joined: 21.01.2010 Posts: 811
      Yeah, I agree nice hand to mix up your play, but I would just fold if this rec is also 3betting aggressively.

      Floating with poor backdoor draws against aggressive rec with 0 FE so low SPR seems quite bad idea.

      You have good EQ because he has the same terrible hand pair of sixes witouth FD or SD, what are the odds for that? :D
    • Kyyberi
      Kyyberi
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      Joined: 09.07.2010 Posts: 10,916
      Good spot to think how do we adjust if we have an aggresive no-folder in our left?
    • Tim64
      Tim64
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      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 7,844
      Agree with all. When I ran the analysis, it seemed like lighting the green stuff on fire. No sample so no reason to think BU 3bets wide, but otoh, I would agree that he'll call a lot so I think next time round we just let the hand go pre vs this BU