[NL2] blind battle: would you cbet/del cbet here?

    • briccius
      briccius
      Silver
      Joined: 26.06.2007 Posts: 358
      Hey guys, I am just reviewing a couple of hands and would appreciate your opinion:

      1) would you open this hand SB vs BB?
      2) would you cbet this flop and why?
      3) as played, would you make a delayed cbet on this turn?
      4) as played, I guess the fold is obv OTT?



      PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: 153.5 BB (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 21.21, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 34)
      Hero (SB): 103 BB
      BB: 121.5 BB (VPIP: 26.32, PFR: 17.54, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 64)
      UTG: 184 BB (VPIP: 13.98, PFR: 5.38, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 95)
      MP: 111.5 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 37.50, 3Bet Preflop: 60.00, Hands: 8)
      CO: 147.5 BB

      Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5:club: 8:club:

      fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB

      Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 7:heart: 8:spade: K:club:
      Hero checks, BB checks

      Turn: (6 BB, 2 players) Q:diamond:
      Hero checks, BB bets 4.5 BB, fold

      BB wins 6 BB
  • 4 replies
    • lfcmichael
      lfcmichael
      Bronze
      Joined: 30.10.2016 Posts: 21
      I’m very tight, so would’ve folded pre.

      As played, I’d bet OTF to see where I am.

      As played after that, I’m folding OTT.
    • pahismail
      pahismail
      Bronze
      Joined: 22.01.2013 Posts: 124
      I fold pre or not and c bet and win or not. (5 out to 2 pair).

      VIllain bet always turn here, if flop checked.

      - Juha
    • la55i
      la55i
      Moderator
      Moderator
      Joined: 27.01.2013 Posts: 7,133
      1) Depends on BB, not in my "standard" open range but since ppl fold too much and I exploit them a lot my SB RFI is about 70%
      2) No, you are OOP and no need to cbet crap
      3) Yes, it is often autoprofit
      4) Yea I guess so. The problem is that when you check twice any decent villain should start barreling air here because you just fold way too often. That is why I like taking a stab OTT instead of checking again.
    • zednik44
      zednik44
      Silver
      Joined: 17.08.2017 Posts: 53
      I think the open is on the borderline. Not eggregiously so, but I think the limit should be closer to 86s -- you should check out w34z3l's open range charts which are divided by position. I think if you raise, then c-betting here is fine. You caught a piece of the board, and will fold out a lot of hands like A3o, A4o, and hands with two diamonds in them that missed. By checking you are giving away initiative -- will you check to showdown and hope to win on the pair of 8s alone?. Your plan to take initiative and be aggressive with a weak hand was fine, but you sort of change your mind by checking the flop. As played, folding turn is fine