ATs call shove ?

      Joined: 03.10.2015 Posts: 39
      So after the limp in I am not really sure what is best here. In all honesty I can't really remember why I only called as I should probably have raised here. When the BB goes all in for 40BB I can't believe he is super strong here as he would likely play for better value with QQ+ and AK. it screams medium pocket pair to me and I do not mind a flip for a massive pot. when the original limper near snap calls the BB shove I am concerned that he was trapping but really don't know what kind of range I can put him on.

      1) Is this a call in the long run ?
      2) If we raise the limper and the BB still shoves and limper calls would that change anything ?

      Poker Stars, $5 Buy-in (2,000/4,000 blinds, 500 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      SB: 153,180 (38.3 bb)
      BB: 163,068 (40.8 bb)
      UTG+1: 107,393 (26.8 bb)
      UTG+2: 49,716 (12.4 bb)
      MP1: 74,048 (18.5 bb)
      MP2: 30,495 (7.6 bb)
      MP3: 117,820 (29.5 bb)
      CO: 116,630 (29.2 bb)
      Hero (BTN): 160,031 (40 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with :Ac: :Tc:
      2 folds, MP1 calls 4,000, 3 folds, Hero calls 4,000, SB folds, BB raises to 162,568 and is all-in, MP1 calls 69,548 and is all-in, Hero calls 155,531 and is all-in

      Flop: (399,110) :Kh: :4h: :Td: (3 players, 3 are all-in)
      Turn: (399,110) :4s: (3 players, 3 are all-in)
      River: (399,110) :Ah: (3 players, 3 are all-in)

      399,110 pot
      Final Board: :Kh: :4h: :Td: :4s: :Ah:
      BB showed :8c: :8d: and lost (-160,031 net)
      MP1 showed :Jc: :Jd: and lost (-74,048 net)
      Hero showed :Ac: :Tc: and won 399,110 (239,079 net)
  • 1 reply
    • SDK1987
      Joined: 12.11.2008 Posts: 36,440
      Pre-flop I would isolate the limper and fold if someone will shove. I don’t think the BB would ever shove with less than AT and we will flip in best case. Against 2 all-inns the fold is even easier for me.

      Now we are limping the shove of the BB is big for sure, but even if he has a capped range I don’t think he would shove to often with less than AT and with the first limper all-inn I would make an easy fold.