[NL25] Zoom, KQs, is it safe to VB now?

    • Dr1fter808
      Dr1fter808
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      Joined: 11.10.2017 Posts: 124
      You would think this is safe spot but I get CR or CRAI often and always go "What?"

      Thoughts?

      PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: 53.72 BB (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 6.06, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 35)
      SB: 363.88 BB (VPIP: 28.83, PFR: 22.63, 3Bet Preflop: 7.18, Hands: 560)
      BB: 201.88 BB (VPIP: 21.08, PFR: 16.49, 3Bet Preflop: 6.33, Hands: 402)
      UTG: 115.72 BB (VPIP: 17.65, PFR: 11.59, 3Bet Preflop: 1.52, Hands: 507)
      MP: 102.64 BB (VPIP: 13.51, PFR: 8.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 116)
      Hero (CO): 115.68 BB

      SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K:heart: Q:heart:

      fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, SB calls 2.6 BB, fold

      Flop: (7 BB, 2 players) 5:diamond: 4:heart: 7:heart:
      SB checks, Hero bets 3.64 BB, SB raises to 10.64 BB, Hero calls 7 BB

      Turn: (28.28 BB, 2 players) 9:spade:
      SB bets 13.52 BB, Hero calls 13.52 BB

      River: (55.32 BB, 2 players) Q:club:
      SB checks, Hero bets 29.04 BB
  • 5 replies
    • Varune
      Varune
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      Joined: 24.04.2009 Posts: 5,338
      SB probably has all the sets in his ranges and you have alot of missed draws when getting on the river.
      So i can see him x/jamming here OTR to get value from your missed draws(as you don't have alot of value hands here really)

      On the flipside: SB ALSO has the missed draws in his ranges but you can't get value from this cuz it will just x/f most of the time.

      Going to my conclusion: What hands do you still expect value from after this action...

      IMO the bet OTR is rather thin i would happily check it down with the showdownvalue we now have.
    • Dr1fter808
      Dr1fter808
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      Joined: 11.10.2017 Posts: 124
      To get value from any pair below the Queen, not excluding QJ. I've seen players do this with something like 66 also and get sticky at the end.
    • Varune
      Varune
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      Joined: 24.04.2009 Posts: 5,338
      Yes some people do that SOMETIMES, doesn't mean it happens EVERYTIME.

      I would rather see you valuebet a KK or AA here so that villain could've hit that Q with a random fd aswell.

      The thing is, you barely have any nutted hands in your range after this action so your betting range is rather capped on the river.
    • LemOn36
      LemOn36
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      Joined: 07.02.2009 Posts: 1,641
      This is really tempting vs the 25pool with his turn sizing
      And the fact that the pool under-uses check raise river big time
      I'd still just check with the Qh, wait to get a read on him but this is not terrible or anything
    • Dr1fter808
      Dr1fter808
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      Joined: 11.10.2017 Posts: 124
      Yeah, the temptation was too much for me. :f_wink: